Mickey Walker vs Charley Burley

Holman Williams spotted Archie 10 pounds and beat him. But then again, Burley had Williams number, too.

Burley by clownage over 10, 12 or 15.

 

No prob, on board. keep well.

 

When asked who hit him the hardest Archie Moore said, without doubt Curtis Sheppard ( considering who he fought !! ) also was asked who was best boxer reply " CB , he was slick as lard, and twice as greasy " again, who he fought.

So the Ole Mongoose has to be listened to, not definitive of course, but a weighty voice.

 

I think Robinson was better overall, but I'm starting to think Walker maybe would have Robinson's number

 

Why? I can't see that at all. Especially not when Robinson out-boxed a better fighter (IMO) in LaMotta so many times, and Walker was out boxed more than once.

 

Mostly because Walker's hooks were immense.

It's not something I'm sure at all about though.

 

Some consider Williams the greatest pure boxer ever.Eddie Futch among them.

 

They didn't fight at all alike. AND in 67 yrs I have never heard anyone say LaMotta (a great fighter with his own style) was greater than Walker. But I would pick Jake to kick Burleys ass also.

 

Jake had his work cut out getting a very debateable dec over Bert Lytell,who was conceding7 lbs to him.

Jake LaMotta 160 lbs beat Bert Lytell 153 lbs by SD in round 10 of 10

• Date: 1945-04-27
• Location: Boston Garden, Boston, Massachusetts, USA
• Referee: Tommy Rawson
• Judge: James Carrig
• Judge: Eddie Curley

Most of the crowd booed the decision and many ringside experts, including Doc Almy and Eddie Welch, believed that Lytell won handily. The Boston Globe had LaMotta ahead by two points while the Boston Evening American had LaMotta up by a one point. The Boston Herald also favored Lytell 5-4-1 in rounds.

 

If someone like LaMotta qualifies as great in your book, the black murderers row absolutely do as well.

Were talking about a guy who lost to guys like Villemain and Dauthuille in his prime.

 

A sober in shape walker was almost invincible...walker must be favored

 

Care to elaborate? Interesting thread. I’ve always rated Walker very high in a pound for pound sense. Certainly higher than Burley. I’m no expert on anybody I haven’t seen a good deal of, though.

 

I don’t think I’ve ever come across a fighter that fought so often and so successfully against significantly larger men.

Then again, that doesn’t really matter in head to head matchups against men his own size. Some guys are just better suited for weight surfing than others.

You guys seem to think he was more Toney than Pacquiao in that regard. Kinda seems like a “this particular forum” bias.

 

Why, which 160 pound wins indicate this?