Mickey Walker vs John Ruiz

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Could the Toy Bulldog have seperated the Quiet Man from the title the night he fought James Toney?

    I personaly think yes but I am interested to hear what you think.
     
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  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IF this a hard question?? If a past it, FAT, out of shape James Toney could have box Ruiz's ears off, I relly hate to see what Walker would have done with him. Much less say Harry Greb lol.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is my view.

    I am interested to see how many people share it however.
     
  4. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Walker would have kicked Ruizs' ass and i don't care what the size differential was.Thanks.:hi:
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ruiz to win a horror of a match by razor thin decision (WS12), But Walker to win a 15 round fight (WM15)
     
  6. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As I look at the query posed here, I just can't get the image of 6'3" 223 pound Arthur De Kuh on his knees at Walker's feet, 1:38 into round one. Ruiz = kaput.
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Walker fought some big guys ,like Bearcat Wright ,he drew with a disinterested Sharkey,got butchered by Schmeling,but only top big men beat him ,I think he beats Ruiz.
     
  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Ruiz? Boxing ability? C'mon, Ruiz has all the talent of a high-grade clubfighter, which is why he HAD to hold excessively and fake low blows. Don't just look at the names on his ledger, examine HOW he "beat" them, mostly by holding excessively and, in the case of his title "winning" fight with Holyfield and the bogus DQ "win" against Kirk Johnson, by blatantly overacting to force low blow calls. He'd done this at least once before against Jimmy Thunder, too.

    Ruiz was a fraud, a cheater and a fake. ANY decent fighter coming up from the lower weights beats him. An ATG like Walker would make him look like the palooka he is.
     
  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Ruiz cheated his opponents, and the sport - that's what upsets me. He is exhibit A of everything wrong with this sport, a fighter who would NEVER have won more than a regional belt without his connections to King.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Ruiz pushed it within the rules allright.

    But I pick him here by late stoppage. Why not? He's an expert at smothering and exhausting his man. Toney at least had the weight to turn him in a clinch.
     
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  11. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    There were no fake low blows Vs Valuev or excessive holding.

    He wouldn't need to cheat to beat Audley Harrison though.:yep
     
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  12. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz knocks him out. The size difference is too much for Walker.
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Walker beat a lot of men the size of Ruiz. Usualy in the first round.

    Size alone is not going to win it for Ruiz.
     
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  14. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    John Ruiz is not a Arthur De Kuh or Bearcat Wright. Size (which includes weight) will be the deciding factor in this bout, it will nullify whatever advantage Walker has in skills department. And the styles matchup doesn't help him either.
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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