Middle Ring Rating End Of 76

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mcvey, Jul 31, 2023.


  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not at all Nobody rates Roberto’s win over Leonard in Montreal as lesser because it was a decision; hell, Sandy Saddler stopped Willie Pep three times and lost once to him by decision and most on here seem to rate Pep’s points win as a great result and dismiss Saddler’s three stoppage wins.

    It’s a statistic. KO wins and KO losses. It doesn’t have an asterisk that says *means more because it was by KO.

    In what way does it merit higher within the structure of the sport to win by KO? If you’re champ and you win by decision or by KO, you retain. If you’re challenger and you win by KO or decision, you take the championship. If two contenders fight, whether it’s KO or decision the winner is the winner and moves up a notch.

    There’s no more pay for winning by KO (or TKO), there’s no extra reward for winning that way. It’s just a statistic with no extra value attached.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You included losses after he won his title and tried to spin that as well should we only gave shots to those without losses and tried to make a valid point out of it that's not only absurd, its at the least disingenuous ,and at it's worst dishonest.

    As I I said ,you are arguing for arguments sake.Bye
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was 22-13 when he won the title. By what you stated about David Love, he shouldn’t have been a contender nor had a chance to ever win a title. One of his losses was to a guy who was 6-4-2, another to an 11-3-1 (four fights before he won the world title).

    Look up Mike Weaver’s record while you’re at it.
     
  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Carlos Monzon officially announced his retirement from boxing on August 29 1977, approximately one month after his successful 14th title defense over no.1 challenger Rodrigo Valdes on July 30 1977 in Monte Carlo, Monaco. On Nov 5 1977, no.1 challenger Rofrigo Valdes and no.2 challenger Bennie Briscoe battled in Campeon D' Italia for the vacant undisputed World Middleweight Title, Valdes won a close 15 round decision and the title.
     
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