Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    NP Jack Dempsey vs Tommy Ryan

    You know the drill

    answer and reason/explanation

    closes in exactly a month
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What a wonderful fight this would be.

    I'd guess at Dempsey. Much more adaptable, sounds two-handed, sounds mobile, sounds like he brings more. For obvious reasons, this is a bit of a stab.
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    this is a dark horse fight of the tournament
     
  4. teeto

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    I'll pick Dempsey as well, i think he was a very great middle, as was ryan, but i'll go with mcgrain's analysis of the fight anyway.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a shame these two had to meet. Both interesting.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    McGrain thats the draw. i think most of the fighters who can win ddint get matched up with each other. as i seeded it.
     
  7. janitor

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    Verry tough call.

    Both these guys were regarded as technical wizzards in their day.

    Ryan was probably the harder puncher of the two.

    Dempsey was probably more highly regarded at middleweight.

    That is about all we have to go on.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Dempsey had more tricks though Janitor
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Ryan could be prety tricky himself.

    I suspect that the rule set is probably the deciding factor here. My vote goes to whoever the ruleset of the fight is closest to the ideal for.
     
  10. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    from what i have read i see this as a great boxing match both quick but it seems dempsey was a bit quicker ,ryan hit harder both game and agile .i would go for dempsey`s extra bit of speed to take him to a decision win
     
  11. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well it is a close call. The Non Pareil held the title for 6 years and it took probably the greatest pound for pound hitter of all time in Fitzsimmons to take his title. Ryan got the title when Fitzsimmons vacated it and he ended up holding it for 8 years until he ended up vacating it. Ryan's 8 years would make him still the longest reigning middleweight champion ever, by my count. When they did meet, Dempsey was old but he was KOd early. I get the feeling that Ryan was a little stronger and more durable and hit that little bit harder. I will guess that it takes him a lot longer but he gets the same KO result as he did when they actually met. Ryan KO15.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Ryan was an all around talent. He could box, punch, take a punch, and he was smart. In many ways Ryan might be the most under rated middle of all time. He was very good. I think Ryan would prove to be too much for Non-Pareil Dempsey.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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