Middleweights TOP 15

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by VHB, Oct 24, 2008.


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  1. VHB

    VHB Active Member Full Member

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    Mundine and Winky will have to wait... and fight meanwhile.

    Geale and Zbik only fight goomer opponents... no world ranking for them...

    Miranda will drop several places on the Pan-Am list... while Eastman barely makes it at all... Quillin will make entry...

    Meanwhile, VHB represents it´s new BALTIC ratings:

    1. Asikainen, FIN
    2. Sylvester, GER (northeast German, Greifswald, Baltic eligible)
    3. Zbik, GER (northeast German, Schwerin, Baltic eligible)
    4. Melis, EST (Estonian prospect, undefeated. Recently took the WBC Baltic seas title)
    5. Proksa, POL
    6. Boreiko, LAT
    7. Povlsen, DEN
    8. Urbanski, POL
    9. Fedotovs, LAT
    10. Kauramäki, FIN

    Updated PAN-AMERICAN ratings:

    PAN-AMERICAN ratings:

    1. Pavlik
    2. Griffin
    3. Lopez
    4. Rubio
    5. Marquez
    6. Ayala
    7. Carrera
    8. Quillin (entry)
    9. Ornelas
    10. Vera
    11. D. Miranda (demoted)
    12. McKart
    13. Zertuche
    14. Demers (demoted)
    15. Lorenzo
    16. Yori Boy Campas
     
    VHB, Nov 20, 2008
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  2. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The top 5 are ok, but thereafter it seriously lacks depth.

    Pav, AA, Mundine, Sturm and Winky is an ok top 5. Thereafter it is lacking.
     
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  3. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Kelly Pavlik over AA, other than that not too bad.... People forget... Pavlik had a lot going against him at 170 vs BHOP... at 160 he is a totally different beast. at 168 I can see AA possibly getting a TKO but no way will he do what BHOP did to him..
     
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  4. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can say that again.
     
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  5. VHB

    VHB Active Member Full Member

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    1. Arthur Abraham

    2. Kelly Pavlik

    3. Felix Sturm

    4. Amin Asikainen

    5. Randy Griffin

    6. Sebastian Sylvester

    7. Khoren Gevor

    8. Javier Castillejo

    9. David Lopez

    10. Marco Antonio Rubio

    11. Raul Marquez

    12. Dmitry Pirog

    13. Wayne Elcock

    14. Mahir Oral

    15. Elvin Ayala

    16. Mariano Natalio Carrera

    17. Sebastian Zbik

    18. Daniel Geale

    19. Peter Quillin

    20. Enrique Ornelas

    21. Brian Vera

    22. Andy Lee

    23. Domenico Spada

    24. Dionisio Miranda

    25. Matthew Macklin

    26. Kofi Jantuah

    27. Bronco Mckart

    28. Ruben Diaz

    29. Jose Luis Zertuche

    30. Avtandil Khurtsidze

    31. Giovanni Lorenzo

    32. Yori Boy Campas

    33. Steven Bendall

    34. Koji Sato

    35. Alexander Sipos

    36. Jamie Pittman

    37. Darren Barker

    38. Gennady Martirosyan

    39. Travis Simms

    40. Paul Smith

    41. Gennady Golovkin

    42. Sergey Melis

    43. Alpaslan Aguzum

    44. Walid Smichet

    45. Grzegorz Proksa

    46. Renan St. Juste

    47. Lajuan Simon

    48. Howard Eastman

    49. Jurijs Boreiko

    50. Kai Kauramäki
     
    VHB, Nov 20, 2008
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  6. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    I still don't see how 1 loss at a completely different weight-class puts AA over Kelly Pavlik .... AA remains #2, every viable source has KP the Middle Weight world champ... stop being Bias. AA is a solid 2 and could very well beat Pavlik, but until he does... HE IS NOT #1
     
    USboxer1981, Nov 20, 2008
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  7. VHB

    VHB Active Member Full Member

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    I think he is. I think he has demonstrated his greatness better. Pavlik´s so-called greatness is based on thrashing Miranda, that Arthur did even quicker, and beating Taylor, who punched himself out in 2 rounds at the first time, and on the rematch seemed to be over-respective towards Pavlik.

    Arthur has been world champion for 3 years, Pavlik 1 year. Arthur has beaten a BUNCH of contenders. Most by brutal KO.
     
    VHB, Nov 20, 2008
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  8. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I quite agree with you,vhb!

    Good thread!
     
    Odo, Nov 21, 2008
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