Midget Wolgast!

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  1. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Man, what a fighter this guy was. Fought from Flyweight to Welterweight against many of the best of his time (Armstrong, Zurita, Small Montana, Speedy Dado, Rodolfo Casanova, Lou Salica, Jackie Brown, Pete Sanstol, Frankie Genaro, Wee Willie Davies, etc. etc.) and beat most of them. According to accounts, he suffered from a lot of poor decisions as well, so his record is a lot spottier than it probably should be. It's a shame there isn't too much footage, but even in the little we have (or at least that I've seen) you can see why this guy was such a handful even during one of the most stacked lower weight eras. An erratic, versatile, unorthodox, confounding showman.

    Below is footage of one of his fights with the aforementioned Juan Zurita (an excellent fighter in his own right) in 1935 (he went 3-0 against Zurita that year before losing twice to him in 1936), a good 10 lbs and a few hard-fought years past his best. The Spark-plug (El Bujia) would've been a much more apt nickname for him than the man in my avatar if you ask me.


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    If noone else responds, I better hear something from you, McGrain.
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This is a losing effort this footage, I thought?

    He's exceptional. I think we're looking at a phenom, personally. Tentatively, everything thing they seemed to make up about Greb seems to have been true about this little ****. It's a cliche, but imagine what he might have done if he behaved himself, trained, stayed of the dames?

    I fear I perpetually overate him whenever we talk about flyweight lists based on what he did at higher weights and the spectacular sense of fun that surrounds his career. But he was a tremendous fighter, and at his best at his best weight he could be the best that ever boxed there. I know you can't really say that, at any weight, and without any real footage, but I really do hold him in that type of regard.

    Pro debut at 15 was it? World champion at 19? Twenty-five fights in 1931?

    Another Mae West conquest by the way. Supposedly.
     
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  3. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    switch hitter too, right ?
     
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  4. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Had to Google Mae West. I figured she'd be another of your old-timey fatty faves.;)

    Who else plowed her?

    Anyways, I can't fathom how it would've been a losing effort if it was. He went 3-2 with Zurita in that 1 1/2 year span, one of the losses by KO (the only legit KO loss of his career, I believe). So if that was the loss what went down in the wins?
     
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  5. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    EVERY fighter from the era apparently :p (rumour has it our own burt b had a rendevous with her as well)

    there was a brilliant article on wolgast about 6 months back in ring with a quote saying if we had more footage of midget, we'd never even mention willie pep!
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    :lol:

    Gorilla Jones was head over heels in love with her. Max Baer. Chalky Wright.


    I can't remember why I thought this...but I thought this. Based on nothing then, at this point!
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    King of 'em all according to some.
     
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  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Is there actually a top fighter that didn't get with Mae West, it seemed like a rite of passage at the time.

    From the footage, been a while since i watched it, he was superb. will watch it at the weekend and report back.
     
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  9. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh Mae West, yeah I know her. She was aight.

    Anyways, does anyone know if there's any other footage of Wolgast out there? I feel like I could watch this guy all day.

    It'd be a gift straight from Dawkins if footage of his bout with Newsboy Brown surfaced (or indeed any footage of Brown).
     
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  10. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    chris dundees first champ
     
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  11. DKD

    DKD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When I opened this thread I was expecting something more like this:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlybptMexTc"]Midget fight - dwarf whopping a midgets ass - Awesome![/ame]
     
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  12. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sure Ava Devine wouldn't mind. I've seen her stuffed by like 4 different midgets.
     
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  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, there's a 12 minute clip of a fight with Small Montana out there. He definitely has a fun style.
     
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  14. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes j, the truth has finally been revealed. I DID have a fling with Mae West,but she flung me out of the window.Well you win some, you lose some.
    Had a final fight with Miss West, and she gave me a bust in the mouth.
    Size 40" ,I recall !
    But Midget Wolgast was a helluva fighter !:hi::hi::hi:
     
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  15. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All good, I'm sure plenty of guys busted in her mouth, anyway.
     
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