Miguel ''Aguacerito'' Acosta Thread.

Although Acosta was losing the fight, I felt the rabbit punch at the end of round 9 had a big bearing on the two Knock downs that followed in round 10. His legs looked completely gone and although given time to recover he still seemed shaken when the fight resumed.

Now I'm not saying the result would have been any different, it wouldn't. But I do feel the rabbit punched took an awful lot out of him.

 

Either way, he knew he couldn't win doing what he was doing yet didn't try to take any chances. He felt the risk of getting hurt was too great obviously.

Bollocks.

 

narvaez only threw nine more punches according to Compubox than Haye did against Wlad. Haye was even more physically overmatched yet he gets slated while Narvaez gets a pass. Doesn't really seem fair.

 

Narvaez felt Donaire's power and was momentarily hurt (3rd or 4th round I think) and from then on seemed less inclined to take any risks. He showed great defence and some nice counters but because of the massive gulf in speed was unable to get any sort of sustained offence going.

I don't blame him for not taking the risk required but as an undefeated world champion with a whole country behind him it seems strange that after nine or ten rounds when he was clearly not throwing enough to win rounds, that he didn't throw a bit more caution to the wind.

 

'Pab, my point is, I'd prefer fighters to chance it and get sparked then realise something ain't working and just fight to survive.

I never said going at Donaire was the way to beat him either :twisted:

 

This is a sensible outlook.

I remember there was one stage late on, must been about the 10th maybe? Donaire had Narvez on the ropes, and Omar turned him pretty brilliantly and swapped positions, Donaire was crouched down, stationary, his hands below his waist, and his hands held in no position to throw anything, yet Narvaez let him off the hook. Not even one punch. That was ridiculous, and I found that to be unforgiveable.

People get it mixed up though, Narvaez was seemingly reluctant to take chances that were presented to him for fear of being caught and hurt again, from what I've read many are saying he should've throw caution to the wind and tried to barge his way in. I'm saying he should've taken advantage of his opportunities, others seem to be saying he should've committed suicide.[/quote]


I kind of see it from both perspectives really

Obviously as you say he should have been taking his chances when the opportunities were there but by the same token there must come a point when you need to make more effort to land your own punches. I'm not saying walk Donaire down that would be stupid but at some point you have to at least stand your ground and not make every step you take a step backwards.

Brilliant defensively was just lacking the power, speed or size to make a real impact offensively.

 

Stand your ground. That's it.

I never said he should have tried to slug it out with then.

Let's be honest, Narvaez never belonged in the ring with Donaire for a number of reasons. Poor matchmaking.

 

I wasn't really targetting that at you. You're right about the reason Haye got slated. People get way too carried away by **** talk. I do think Narvaez stunk the joint out on Saturday though, and was happy to just survive. It was especially disappointing because unlike Haye, he didn't have the one punch power to justify his tactics. Plus he showed he had the ability to make it a closer fight if he had taken a few more chances.

 

There were a few raised eye brows when the fight was announced because I don't think anyone would have picked him as his next opponent. Hopefully this will be the last time Donaire picks on someone physically so much smaller and will push TopRank into matching him more competitively in the future.

I have to say I thought it was going to be a tough competitive fight. Admittedly I had only seen 2 or 3 of Narvaez's fights previously but normally throws decent combinations to body and head. He is by no means a come forward fighter but I was expecting more to be honest.
I did think Donaire would stop him some time after 7 or 8 rounds but expected Narvaez to ask questions of Nonito.

It kind of ended up like Pacquiao vs Clottey (although Clottey did have the size advantage).

 

Remember when this thread was about Acosta? :yep

 

I'd argue that by that point there wasn't much left to take out of Miguel. He'd been shaken several times before the 9th.

Also - it isn't too fresh in my memory (only saw it the once live, and not in the greatest of quality*) but wasn't that instance like a good many rabbit punches in the sport in that the victim was not entirely blameless? Didn't Acosta present the back of his head while trying to avoid more conventional blows?

*On the website of TV MAX, the Panamanian TV station that aired it - which for future reference simulcasts all those boxing cards live. It's perfectly legal/non-copyright-infringing but I don't want my balls busted for posting links in case any gung ho mods are on the prowl, so just google TV MAX en vivo (en vivo is Spanish for "live").

 

If I remember rightly I think Acosta was bending down quite low when he got caught with the rabbit punch. So he did kind of bring it on himself but I stand by the fact that without that I don't think the last two knock downs would have happened. When he took the time out and was stood in the neutral corner he was wobbling all over the place. I was actually surprised he finished the round I thought at that stage one half decent punch and it would be all over.

Thanks for the website info :good