Miguel Cotto Chin VS Sergio Martinez Punching Power Which One Prevails?

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  1. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Martinez is all wrong for Cotto.
     
  2. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    :good Be careful because you might be label "do not know boxing"!

    Martinez threw a punch on the whiskers of a fighter who was moving towards the punch and produced a spectacular KO and suddenly he becomes a KO artist.
     
  3. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like I said "Marquez get knock down almost every fight in the early rounds so did Trinidad, but they get back the **** up and win just like Cotto did. Does that mean they have bad chins??


    And I'm still waiting on something to please showing me proof of Martinez having "KYTFO" power.
     
  4. Finesse74

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  5. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it's certainly possible that Martinez could stop Cotto on accumulation or TKO him on cuts. But even with the size discrepancy, it's hard for me to picture Martinez taking him out with a single shot, when he's never displayed one shot power in the past against lesser opponents. I don't think Martinez's KO over Williams was indicative of Sergio packing big power or Williams possessing a weak chin. I think it was just a product of Martinez perfectly timing Williams' winging left hands and catching him before he even knew what hit him.

    As a Cotto fan, I'd say I like his chances against Martinez at 155 a lot better than I do against say an Alfredo Angulo or James Kirkland at 154. Generally, it's the pressure cookers with power that gives Cotto the most issues. While he seems to bode fairly well against slick fighters with moderate punch outputs and not the biggest of punches.
     
  6. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto has a solid chin. NEVER knocked out by one shot. still think he can win this fight against martinez. with steward working on D he should have his game elevated.
     
  7. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It means they can be hurt because they do to a certain extent have shaky whikers, the thing is that even though they can be hurt it doesn't take away they're great fighters.

    The question from the TS is tricky. I could easily say Khan's chin vs Maidana's power... but that's not what's going to determine the winner of the fight. If Maidana cracks Khan flush with his full power Khan will be hurt, but I think Khan is too good to get caught by Maidana right now.

    With Cotto and Martinez it's similar, if Martinez catches Cotto flush and hard Cotto will be hurt and maybe out, but during the fight, what if Cotto doesn't give Martinez the openings he needs and pressures him without being reckless? The fight wouldn't be decided by Martinez power vs Cotto's chin, it would be on who's the better fighter that night (who's better prepared).

    As a Cotto fan I admit it's an extremely tough fight for Cotto, but I also think it would be a great fight that both fighters and boxing fans deserve to see.
     
  8. di tullio

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    Yes, but Martinez is capable of throwing big numbers, also. He threw like 650 in the first Williams fight.
     
  9. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    good points:good
     
  10. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    Unless Cotto has really altered and improved his defense, we will get our answer because Martinez has the speed, accuracy and style to get to Cotto's chin.
     
  11. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto never had great punching power, but always had good punishing power. Martinez never really was a puncher nor he turned into one, but his precision punches resulted in several knockdowns/knockouts. Even at this point I'd say Cotto packs more power.
     
  12. Finesse74

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  13. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    agreed. But the question stands, with Martinez sneaky left-hand and Cotto susceptibility to getting hit often especially against southpaws, does Cotto's chin stand up to the heavier fighter with probably the best power he's faced to date?
     
  14. elchivito

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    Cotto has a big heart, but consider who it was that dropped him, regardless if it's a 140lber or a 147lber. Paulie Malignaggi at 135 or 140lb is not a bigger puncher than Gamboa at 126lbs. Both times Cotto was stopped and vs 2 of boxing's biggest punchers at the time. Sure, there are different levels of power, but the point is both Pacman and Margarito are ko punchers and that's all you need to know. I'm tired of hearing Williams was a knock out waiting to happen he's been tagged cleanly several times in his career showing he has an iron chin and now that Sergio ko'd him brutally he has no cheen. I disagree. Williams got caught with a punch he had been caught with earlier, but didn't see this one coming so didn't have time to brace for it, counter it, or roll with it. Believe it or not, a non existent as his defense seems and all this talk about them only working on conditioning in his camp, Williams does have abit of defense. You can see him in the Cintron fight ducking acouple of Cintron's right hand bombs that keep missing their mark by a split second over and over again.

    What I feel Cotto has lost recently is the speed in his hands and feet. He still has power, but without the speed in his hands and feet, his power won't be as effective. Sergio's speed alone would give Cotto problems and like in the Pacman fight Miguel won't see from where or what angles the punches are coming from. I give all credit to Sergio for combining that speed with power for having devastating effect in his punches.
     
  15. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto doesn't have to alter anything really. He could(should) always work on improving his defence.
    Martinez is a great fighter, rightfully ranking higher than Cotto p4p and right now the best fighter from 154-160. I've said it a few times already that I think this is a long shot for Cotto, but still a good fight. I do however think that Martinez hand speed is not out of Cotto's handling capacity which is why I believe Cotto should take the fight. If Cotto can see the shots coming (which is my suspicion) stylistcally he'll put up a good fight.