Miguel Cotto ending Pacmans career...

but eze, the famous pbf dumbass fan insists that pbf and mosley can fight at a catchweight.

atschatsch, dumb statement considering both are welters. :yep

 

And this is based on what exactly? Gimme some references?

Chavez and Margarito are freaks...that's about it. And they've both been floored

 

Thanks for your contribution...

It isn't my goal to demonstrate what it is a catchweight fight... but it is really disapointing to see that some people chose not to understand what it is just because they feel that by accepting it, they would be giving up and with that their favourite fighter wouldn't be as good as they think he is....

In real life.... every time that a boxer from a lower division ask another boxer from a higher division to come down to a especific weight so they both can fight.... that it is called a catchweight fight..... it doesn't matter what weight they agree on.....

You won't hear about two boxers from the same division fighting at their own division but with a stipulation saying that one of them cannot weight the limit allowed by their own division.....

In other words, the minut I ask you to come down in weight so we can both fight, then that's the moment when our fight will become a catchweight fight....

The way that some people undersrtand the meaning of a catchweight fight is really funny (stupid) .... I mean you can see it by the answers they gave...

 

you are really stupid.. try to read again and again the two link provided by another poster and dont make your own explanation.but i guess you have a big reading comprehension problem, so no point. keep up your stupidity.

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_weight[/ame]

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/Catchweight


link below might help you catch up with the rest.

http://www.rocketreader.com/

 

As far as I'm concerned, there's something about Cotto that remained unresolved since the Mosley fight and that may have to do with his stamina, or lack thereof, if not with some mid-fight strategy to box off the back foot.

Whatever the case may be, there's a point in his recent fights where Cotto retreats and suffer's his opponent's aggression and that's where he's particularly vulnerable. He comes off as someone who wishes the fight would end after the 6th round.

I don't think Cotto is cut for this fighting style.

I see Pac take that one by TKO between the 7th and the 10th round.

 

You are an idiot.... that explanation isn't mine, it is the explanation from one of the sources he provided, I just copied and pasted. You are the one who should learn how to read properly. See the " " marks.

 

nope, taking a knee is what a smart fighter does when he is in trouble.
Quitting is saying your done in your corner between rounds.

 

A catch weight is a term used in boxing to describe a weight limit for a fight that

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Recent examples of catch weight fights include the second fight between Jermain Taylor and Kelly Pavlik, which was fought at a catch weight of 166 pounds and the Felix Trinidad-Roy Jones, Jr. fight, which was fought at 171 pounds.

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The opinion of the writer is based on the fact that most of the times a catchweight fight is between two fighters whose weight classes are close, example a boxer who belongs to the 154 pounds fighting a boxer who belongs to the 160 pounds... therefore the catchweight will be between the two weight limits, in other words won't fall in line with any of the two weight limits (154 or 160)

In the explanation the writer expands the topic more and then he says....

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will be a midpoint between two weight classes". What the writer is saying is that (often) most of the time will be this way but there are cases in which won't be that way, it will be different, the fight could be between two fighters whose weight classes are apart for more than one weight class.....

And this is the case of the fight between Pac and Hoya. Pac was a 135 pounds fighter while Hoya was a 154 pounds fighter..... they fought at 147 which is a midpoint between the two weight classes and such weight isn't the limit for Pac's weight class nor the limit for Hoya's weight class, in other words does not fall in line with the traditional limits of their weight classes.... It isn't 135 nor 154.

If Pac fights Cotto at 147 then it wouldn't be a catchweight fight because fall in line with the traditional limit of the 147 weight class, which is Cottos weight class..

This is why I gave some examples in the begining....

If the fight had been at 146 pounds is a catchweigh fight but if it is at 147 it isn't??? and then at 148 it is again..... think about it.... none of those weights belong neither to Pac's nor to Hoya's weight classes.

The fight between Hoya and Pac was a special fight because there were 19 pounds appart.... this happens seldon times, not often, and that is why the weight they fought at wasn't between two close weight classes such as 154 and 160 for example, in which the catchweight would have been 157 or around that...

 

Yes, its an argument of semantics with very little input into the topic. Having said this I'm going for Pac given that he has come from the minimum weight to fight a monster at the 140-147 weight classes.

 

i get what you are saying but i still disagree. if you still want to continue this discussion, make another thread about it since we are straying away from the the subject here.

i'm still positive about my interpretation of what a catchweight fight is and i know i might be wrong but until i can confirm it with other posters, i will stand by my definition.

 

Cotto KO7

 

Nah, Pac is too much of a warrior to quit because of a fight. If he didn't quit after losing to journeymen, then he's not gonna quit from losing to an elite ww.

 

It's ok, there is no problem at all if you have a different point of view.... that's what makes us humans.....I am pretty sure that there might be someone out there who would think different than you and me with respect to this subject, someone who might think that you and I are wrong..... :yep

And no, I don't want to continue debating this, I have nothing else to say, and if I am wrong, then so be it, it won't be neither the first time nor the last one.... I think you are right, we are pretty much hijaking this thread..... at the end of the day it will be irrelevant....

Anyway, is was nice debating you.... have fun :good