Sorry but I think most people agree with me buddy. Btw I spent a lot of time in the gym in Palm Beach with both Forrest and Vargas when they turned pro. I watched Forrest and Vargas spar many of times. Forrest always got the best of Vargas. :good
You want to just chat instead of piggy-backing after our posts, klion? A "gift decision" eh? Body punches count, buddy. :rofl It's the same **** with you people. Vargas won that fight CLEARLY. Yeah, it was close, but CLEAR for Vargas. If you're in LA I suggest we get together and watch that fight live.
My bad, Im always thinking in the W column. Cotto is getting close, but Trinidad, Wright, and ODLH is pretty solid.
Dont really need to. I felt bad for Wright. He was always the dark horse. I was suprised that Vargas even fought him. Then he showed up looking like a balloon. Wright clearly won the fight in my opinion. It was competitive not close in my opinion. Stop getting so heated over it, its just an opinion. Obviously your a big Vargas fan and I can respect that, but your starting to get personal with the name calling.:rasta
You are funny. You also thought Margarito beat Williams when most boxing fans will agree that it was a close but CLEAR win for Williams. Same with Winky/Vargas. I konw you're going to come back with, "Just because everyone saids one thing doesn't make it true." Yes, but if we are talking about hard core boxing fans who watch fights and most of them think one way, that is a pretty good consensus. Again, i'm not depending on them to tell me who won because i've seen both fights multiple times but that tells you a lot about what actually occurred.
BODY PUNCHES, klion. BODY PUNCHES. I'll let you, and the majority of so called "boxing fans" figure it out..
You dont believe me? I wouldnt make that up. I also watched Tua spar with Golota, and Zab Judah spar with Pernell Whitaker. All under the watchful eye of Lou Duva, Ronnie Shields, and Roger Bloodworth. It was pretty cool times actually. Again dont take it personal...
Are your feelings hurt? Really, I don't need you to tell me about a Zab Judah sparring session right now. :rofl
Ok Douche bag let me take it DOWN to your level. Your in the minority here, stop grasping at straws. Vargas was a inconsistent piece of **** with no brains to go with his good physical skills, and thats most likely why his career was vastly shortened. Theres a reason Main Events threw him to the wolves quicker than normal, because they knew he was going to eat himself into a heavyweight, so they tried to milk every penny out of him sooner rather than later. So your saying Margarito beat Williams too?? That proves what kind of "boxing fan" you are.. Have a good one.:good
So you think clean body punches are more important than clean head shots? If so, maybe that's why your scoring is off from most people's. But most people don't score fights that way.
And your a genius, because in your world, your favorite fighter wins everytime, even if he loses the fight.:good