Miguel Cotto Has NO BUSINESS Losing to Manny Pacman

Right. When it took Margarito 11 rounds to KO him, and he beat guys like Sugar Shane and Clottey, who weigh in at like 155-160 at fight time... I can't see a 142 lb. Pac actually KO'ing Cotto.

Margarito had ****in horsehoes in his gloves and it still took forever.

 

Going back to the original article its pretty clear for me! It depends to a large extent which Cotto steps into the ring, and i mean this in a tactical technical sense. although i have always loved Cotto my big problem with him was how many punches he took, he just took unnecessary punches too often for my liking. thats waht the Moseley fight was a watershed. In that fight we saw a cotto who had markedly better head movement and more importantly his feet and judgement of range was fantatsic against a top notch quick boxer. This same Cotto turned up for 5 rounds against Marg, in those rounds Marg for me was outclassed. Now i believe it weren't no funny hnads of stone form Marg that got to Cotto, i bleive his conditioning was wrong, hence head movement and feet went.
Now against Clottey the danger was that Cotto went backwards to pre Moseley days. Clottey got to him because he was there to be got to! The appreciation of range and head movement gone. Now he comes in this mode against Pac and he is toast... within 6 to 7. However he comes in like he did against Judah and Moseley and my god we have a fight on our hands. If i shut my eyes and visaulise that Cotto then surely we could see such a controlled intensity that the great Pac will be taken out to sea after some great stuff and drowned!

 

I usally agree with you Walk but your way off here. based on attrbiutes and skill??? Then theres no way Cotto should win. he does nothing better then Pacquiao at all in the ring. I even give defense egde to Pacquiao

 

Cotto should and will lose to Pacman. Cotto has poor defense and when a one dimensional predictable zero skill zombie like Margarito lands at will then you know Cotto has serious issues with his defense. Pacquiao constantly moves, he won't be charging in with his face wide open to "WOOOO" a few idiots on ESB only to get KTFO a fight later, Pacquiao will be jumping in and out with EXTREMELY fast punches Cotto WON'T see coming. Pacman can also do that ALL night as his stamina is insane and we all know how Cotto responds to power punches, he gets hurt and has been many times, now imagine punches in combinations with serious power. It's safe to say nearly 70% of Pacquiao's punches he WON'T see coming and when he backs off he does with his head low, expect Pacquiao to fire uppercuts he has never tasted like before. If Margarito's wide **** slow "old granny" type of uppercuts were landed at will and like 6 in a row then expect Manny to land FAR more. Cotto needs to set his self to unload, Pacquiao won't give him that, he will keep turning him/moving up and landing over and over till Cotto eventually breaks down and hits the canvas.

If Cotto was able to hold on and survive against other guys then he won't be able to do that in this one, Pacquiao is a great finisher. Let me make it more simple for you, Pacquiao fought guys similar and better than Cotto, Cotto hasn't fought anyone not even 20% close to what Pacquiao is set to bring.

Pacquiao TKO5.

 

defense, in what fight? as much as i like him i don't think he has the best of defense.. i believe cotto has the better defense out of the both of them just watch the first 6 rounds of the margarito fight where margarito couldn't even touch him much then watch the mosley fight too where mosley had just as much trouble

 

I think if anything, Manny's strength/punching power is being overestimated, and that's mainly due to the Hatton fight. Because prior to Pacquiao-Hatton, most agreed Manny was more of an accumulation puncher at 130 and above than the lights out puncher that he had been at lower weights. He didn't look particularly strong against De La Hoya or Diaz, just overwhelmingly fast. Now all of a sudden, he's a murderous puncher again? I don't agree with that.

I mean ****, Ricky Hatton was getting jarred, stunned, and even dropped by punches in the first round that weren't exactly hellacious shots. The punch that knocked him out was a hell of a shot, no doubt. But I'm not sure if it was anymore powerful than the left hand shot that Juan Manuel Marquez got up from in the third round of his second fight with Manny, or the one that staggered him in the 10th round. I think Ricky Hatton getting knocked out cold by Manny Pacquiao, is more of a testament to Hatton's punch resistance (or lack thereof) than Manny's punching power. Had Ricky not been shaken by seemingly moderate shots in the first round, I'd be inclined to think otherwise.

At the end of the day, in Pacquiao-Cotto, you have a full-fledged welterweight fighting a lightweight. As a fan of Cotto and Manny both, I'm more concerned about how Manny will cope with Cotto's strength and power than vice versa.

 

You guys are ****in nuts!


Cotto proved everything against a guy in Joshua Clottey would make everyone from 147-154 look ****in silly and ineffective.


I swear. You guys are reading too much into that Clottey fight. Cotto is gonna steamroll pac, I'm sorry to say

 

Nobody is basing anything on the Clottey fight, were talking about every time Cotto fights. its the same leaky ass defense, a sucker for an uppercut, same old Cotto. that **** wont work against the best boxer in the world, plain in simple.

 

On boxing skill Pacman beats Cotto like an older brother beats his younger brother. Its not a prediction, but based on boxing skills alone Pacman has alot more thaN Cotto.

Cotto can only win if he makes it his fight.


It has been shown in his loss that he cannot think on his feet and adjust and Pacman can, so I am predicting a Pacman UD.

 

Size don't win fights skill does. People in here talking bout Cotto is an unskilled big giant. Miguel Cotto is one of the most improved fighters skill wise in the last 4-5 years. But then again.......so is Pacquaio.

 

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Cotto has Excellent defence.

 

Yes Cotto CAN have a better defensive sensibility. as i said before he seemed to come of age against Zab and moseley. Head movement and judging range through great feet came to play. Then he lost it after 6 rounds with Marg. My fear is i didnt see him regain it against clottey. He became too easy to hit again! If he doesnt regain it Pac will eat him up , if he does we will see just how great Pac is and if Roach has any B plans!

 

More eloquently put than I could do, great post although my sentiments are the same. I think this is the end of this thread, thanks to the great Scar.

 

Im predicting a Manny Pacquaio Victory via proberly close but UD decision. However i do believe they are gettin a cotto at the right time. BUT i wil not discredit his victory should he win.

Not to hate on Manny cus im a Huge fan of Both fighters. But..... Has anyone noticed that Manny's last 3 fights and now soon to be 4th fight in a row he has faced natural lefties who fight out of an orthodox stance? (With exception of Diaz who is a southpaw if im not mistaken).

Now every one knows the best weapon vs a southpaw is the straight right hand. Morales used it over and over as did Marquez whilst circling away from Manny's Power hand. Are Team Pacquaio Conscious of something??? Then again, Manny is no Ordinary southpaw!!!

 

People undestimate how hard it is to avoid winging shots from a fighter like Margarito. Yes he is crude as ****, yes he telegraphs his shots, BUT when they come from out of the line of vision and at an INSANE work rate then its difficult to evade.

Contray to popilar belief Cotto regardless of what Margarito was doing or Not doing with his wraps, FOUGHT THE WRONG GAME PLAN. THe man CLEARY punched himself out by trying to put mustard on almost every shot when he could barely stop Margo in his tracks. He could have EASILY cruised to a UD with pitter patter shots. Hence when he gased he was taking punishmenbt. As you have CORRECTLY stated the first 6 rounds was a different story. HOW CAN PEOPLE SAY COTTO'S DEFENCE IS POOR?!!!! However i will say this, if he had trouble with Clottley's speed he ain't seein pac's hands for ****.