Miguel Cotto vs. David Lemieux: Who Wins?

KO win for the Canadian

 

Honestly, the Maravilla fanboys are now officially the saddest, most deluded fanboys on this forum. They are literally saying now that anybody at middleweight beats Miguel Cotto. Miguel Cotto losing to a middleweight B fighter who hasn't even proven he's a gatekeeper yet???

What are they gonna do when Cotto beats Canelo?

 

A virtual draw is "thoroughly schooled"? You are the one who needs to go to school, Junior. And judging by your posts, it would be in a special bus.

Anyway, Cotto's got a new trainer now, and, in case you haven't noticed, he's lineal middleweight champion and a lock for HOF. Trout and Sergio are not.

 

Although it will never happen as Cotto will take an easier route, I truly believe Lemieux would beat the cr@p out of him.

 

An old shot fighter versus a technically unsound fighter, who cares?

 

Boxing circles???
Cotto isnt so good backing up.
Remember the 1st fight with Margo.
With Lemieux, Cotto would be 100% survival trying to withstand Lemieux'x heavy artillery which keeps on coming. alot more than Margo.
And Lemieux is way too big and strong.

 

Call me crazy but I'd be much more interested in Lemieux vs. Stevens.

Then Lemieux vs. Kirkland.

Then Lemieux vs. Cotto/Alvarez/GGG.

I like the kid and want to see him in some puncher-bombfests. At this point I think Cotto would be able to outbox him.

 

1. Trout beat Cotto convincingly.

2. Cotto is a veteran fighter with an extensive amateur/Olympic background, his trainer doesn't mean shiit, and Roach is not even a very good trainer (though I do think they match up well and should have gotten together earlier).

3. Sergio isn't a lock for HOF?

He owns one of the top 25 or so KO's of all time. He put together a great title defense run at middleweight despite being too small for the weight. He never really lost while healthy except years earlier to Margarito. First-ballot, hands down, no argument from anybody besides idiots who DKSAB and don't get ballots anyway.

Gatti is in there ffs

4. You are not very smart.

 

1. Wrong. Neither fighter was ever able to dominate the other. Neither ever hurt the other. Trout was given rounds by the judges because he was the underdog and his defense frustrated Miguel who didn't dominate him. But at no time did he dominate Cotto either. Watch the fight again. It was a virtual draw.

2. If you don't see a difference between Cotto now and Cotto under Diaz, you should at least listen to Cotto, who could not be happier with his new coach and his dominating victories.

3. No. His best victory is over Kelly Pavlik. Someone else who will not make the HOF. Maybe you don't remember he lost his first fight to Williams (not a HOFer), and to Margarito (Not a HOFer), and to Cotto, and got a gift hometown decision against Murray (Not a HOFer), and got knocked around the ring like a rag doll by lazy pothead Chavez (Not a HOFer). Sergio's best chance of making the HOF is as an affirmative action Argentinian because the HOF wants to diversify. Gatti was a local hero. Completely different case.

4. Maybe not. But I am still owning you in this thread.

 

Sergio is a HOF. BTW I don't remember Martinez QUITTING on his kness in his prime. A shot Martinez took his beating like a man.

 

You think Trout didn't dominate him? You think he didn't hurt Cotto in the 11th and 12th round? I thought Trout did outclass him.

With reference to the trainer, maybe it will make a slight difference in a tactical battle like he had with Mayweather, but the Trout fight showed flaws in Cotto at 154 that I'm not convinced any trainer can change.
Cotto repeatedly nailed Trout with his signature left hook, but didn't hurt him. This might be because Trout is as hard as nails, but Lara and Canelo did hurt him.
On the inside, Trout appeared much stronger and pushed Cotto around like a rag doll. Roach might bring tactics, but I don't see Miguel getting significantly stronger.
A couple of times Trout buzzed Cotto. Trout isn't a puncher. Roach won't improve his punch resistance.

Bottom line, I don't think Cotto has enough in the tank even with Roach to compete with the big boys at 154 and 160.

And Martinez will be inducted into the hall of fame, and rightly so.

 

Lemieux is so overrated. Miguel by easy decision with a possible knockdown