Miguel Cotto vs. Kostya Tszyu

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  1. they_killed_kenny

    they_killed_kenny Underdogs on top :) Full Member

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    The question was Prime vs Prime.....and 140 was not Cottos prime.....Cotto has yet to reach his prime
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    :lol:

    So kid, what you are sayinh is we should measure a Cotto that we have not yet seen against a Tzsyu who never fought at Cotto's best weight?

    :rofl

    How about taking the best 140 Cotto and the best 140 Tzsyu?
     
  3. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    Well at Cotto's best at 140, he would have been KO'd by Tszyu at his best at the weight.

    If Tszyu had fought Cotto when he fought Hatton, he would have KO'd Cotto at that point as well.
     
  4. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Surely KT could move up ONE division though... I think thats much more fair then forcing this hypothetical match up against a still green version of Cotto.
     
  5. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    He was not green at all. He was weight drained.
     
  6. they_killed_kenny

    they_killed_kenny Underdogs on top :) Full Member

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    Then one could say yout answer is true :good


    But......Prime Vs Prime this question cannot be answered just yet, thats was all pumpkin !!:hi:
     
  7. PedroDePacas

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  8. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Mother****er, you stole my catch phrase "pumpkin". :lol:.

    Good lad learn from the best. :yep
     
  9. PedroDePacas

    PedroDePacas Active Member Full Member

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    You say that like it's a fact, but its something that will have to be judged retrospectively - we don't know what Cotto will do in future, we can only go on the best we have seen from him to date.
     
  10. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    at 140 KT by KO in 8
     
  11. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Tszyu beats the **** out of Cotto at 140...easy
     
  12. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    About a year ago, Tszyu hadn't formally retired, he was just inactive. He wanted to keep himself open for the opportunity to fight Miguel Cotto if the money was right.

    Tszyu made some millions as a boxer, but nothing compared to what Cotto is probably getting.
     
  13. gatorage

    gatorage Active Member Full Member

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    Let's not judge Tszyu by his last fight ever ... that's like judging sugar ray and ali by some of their last fights. So many champions have had one fight too many and i think Tszyu did as well. If he'd stopped after the Mitchell rematch, this poll wouldn't have so many people picking Cotto.

    My honest opinion is this fight wouldn't have been close ... Cotto is certainly a come forward fighter but he does pause before attacking and gives opponents time to set and throw. He also eats alot of punches to land his own. This is death in front of Tszyu.

    Another thing is ... can anyone name a time Tszyu has been visibly hurt to the body in his entire career? He was remarkedly resiliant to body shots and had a damn good chin.

    I've seen Cotto rocked in numerous fights and he was lucky his opponents weren't finishers. He has limited head movement and isn't fast and although powerful, he goes backwards when he gets hit by good punches. A prime Tszyu, one of the best finishers at 140 ever, takes him out in the middle rounds easier than most people expect.
     
  14. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Gee so you are implying that the Cotto at 140 is as tested and experienced as the same cotto at 147 then.... ROFL. Back to the drawing board champ.
     
  15. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    I think we need to see more of Cotto before this hypothetical can properly be made. Kt could easily move up one division and still be a beast. Both of these guys styles spell trouble for each other, which would make for a very interesting fight. Both under rated technical fighters, both with good power, KT slightly more upstairs, Cotto more to the body. Cotto with the better jab and hook, KT with the better right hand. I feel that KT would definitely find a home for his right hand against Cotto, which on Cotto's shakey chin could certainly spell goodnight. Cotto would really need to get inside, and pummell KT from the inside where he can't get leverage on his punches. This would be a battle of who could force the other guy to fight their fight. Very tough match to call. At this stage, even at 147, KT KO 7-8 IMO. However the jury is still out on Cotto. IF he could prove himself against some top level punchers, i would be inclinded to change my pick.