Miguel Cotto vs. Ricky Hatton @ 140, 2005

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    You just said Cotto won a LightWight title which he did not.

    As for the other stuff I started heavily getting into boxing around that time, so I have no clue.

    But I dont understand why this other stuff matters, we are talking about matching them up at 140, not why they didn't fight.
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think Hatton was a better light welter than Cotto, and thus would go for Hatton.

    I think Hatton should have started at 135 or even 130 - probably could have done had he employed a nutritionist all the way through his career.
     
  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I was like wtf he never won a Light Weight title. :lol:
     
  4. jecxbox

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    Cotto would kill any come forward fighter with lack of D and an average chin who was on top of it all SMALLER than he was. Hatton is so open for the left hook and jabs its not even funny, he'd look like the elephant man at the end of any fight with Cotto at any weight.
     
  5. fitzgeraldz

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    Cotto's "D" isn't all that ...
     
  6. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    :patsch

    In 2005 Hatton had a reasonable defence and a very good chin - Cotto has always been vulnerable to pressure fighters, illustrated by Torres (average fighter) and expertly by Tony Margarito.

    I see a Hatton TKO with Cotto up on the cards, around 8 ish
     
  7. JM22

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    Cotto will kill hatton at 140 or 147.
     
  8. David_TheMan

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    Hatton does not hit as hard as Torres, hatton never brought pressure as effectively and consistant as margarito, hugging is not effective pressure, Hatton has never had excellent or even reasonable defense. So what Cotto can be hit, he wouldn't get hit by Hatton with his wide looping punches. Cotto would break Ricky's body down and finish him in the 2nd half of the fight.
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

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    Based on?

    Torres doesn't exactly have a comparable resume to Hatton, Torres is around 80% KO, with Hatton just under 70%.

    He probably does hit harder, but is not as accurate, nor does he possess anywhere near the level of ring craft and boxing brain that Hatton has - he was KTFO in the first round of his last fight. Methinks he ought to have been more careful.

    Not that many of Hatton's punches are wide and looping - you have obviously only seen the Mayweather fight where he was desperately seeking a KO and was just throwing bombs all over the place following the point deduction.

    Cotto wasn't that bigger puncher at 140, certainly less than 147, and he was hardly blasting out elite names during his time there - Hatton would have been able to stay in there and break him down, if you use the Tszyu fight (and Maussa possibly) as examples.
     
  10. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    Hatton by decision because like people have said at 140 cotto was drained also hatton can box it's just over the last few fights he believed he could win by bullying.
     
  11. san rafael

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  12. Thread Stealer

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    I've seen Hatton use the ring and box and circle and all that, but would be able to do it against Cotto?

    Cotto's always been an effective boxer who can use the ring.
     
  13. TFFP

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    Hatton can't box with Cotto, give over.

    Cotto has him in nearly every area I can think of. Cotto can jab him and keep him at range if he chooses. Cotto can counter him when he lunges in as Mayweather/Collazo hell even Magee had success doing, although he wasn't as strong in this area at 140, he could do it.

    When Hatton tries his hugging bull**** Cotto is the bigger stronger man, and Hatton can't bully him like he did with either smaller 140lbers or former lightweights etc. Cotto hits harder. Speed is about equal. Cotto's defence is not outstanding, but easily superior to Hatton.

    I only give possibly chin and stamina to Hatton. How relevant is chin going to be, when did you ever see Hatton knock out a decent fighter with one punch to the head? It would take accumlative damage, which Hatton would never likely inflict. Stamina won't be an issue when Cotto's beating him from pillar to post either.
     
  14. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Hatton is not extremely accurate and his ring IQ is not high. 2005 Hatton only fought Kotsya and Carlos Maussa. He took a faded Kotsya 11 rounds and could not take him out despite all the grabbing and mugging he was allowed to do. It took him 9 rounds to get Carlos, a man who 2 years earlier Cotto broke down in 5.

    As for Cotto not being a KO guy in Jr. WW, are you out of your mind? The guy had a 81% KO rating. Hatton could not fight anyone on the top level of the Jr. WW division .
     
  15. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    LOL, at all the revisionist and hyped version of Miguel Cotto as a fighter and a talent in this thread. Combine that with all the shitting on Hatton and you have some extremely funny, uninformed, stupid sounding nonsense.