Mike McCallum vs Julian Jackson

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  1. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This one's an underrated classic in my opinion:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kbKe9cvEBI[/ame]


    Jackson sure came out fast, but McCallum picked him apart after weathering the early storm. Check out the devastating body punches at 3:55.
     
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  2. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    It's a good companion fight to Hagler Hearns.
     
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  3. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jackson was leery of McCallum's skills back then, so that is why he came out firing away. J.J. wanted to see if he could ice McCallum early, because, if he failed to do so, Jackson knew he'd be in trouble with McCallum once he got warmed up and in a groove...

    Jules Jackson had big power and heart, but poor defense and a weak chin... Plus his skills were average... Jackson was special at 154, but normal at 160...

    I'm not so sure Jackson should get into the IBHOF. Why? Because he spent too much time fighting title fights on big fight undercards against 'Johnny Payday' and never really captured the spotlight in the press or the sports section of the local paper...

    Jackson's true big win was his '89 KO over Terry Norris when Norris was still green...

    The pair of KO losses to G-Man really hinder Jackson's legacy...

    MR.BILL
     
  4. Jersey Joe

    Jersey Joe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought this was stopped a bit early, to be honest. Still, McCallum showed his all-round ability here - great chin, very good defense, good countering, and relentless accurate offense when he had his opponent hurt.

    The Bodysnatcher was a bit like Hagler in that he had no real weak points, he was a very well-rounded fighter.
     
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  5. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It usually took McCallum a long time to get guys out of there because he'd soften them up for awhile to the body and then close the show. Jackson is a guy that is much much better at dishing out than absorbing and does not absorb punishment well and that's why he only lasted 2 rounds against McCallum.
     
  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McCallum was not trying to soften Jackson up here though, he did not want to leave this puncher around and broke Jackson down with an all-out body assault. McCallum later called Jackson the hardest puncher he met, he was rocked by a partly blocked punch to the temple but otherwise took Jackson's power as anyone could have managed.

    I think the fight could have went on, as Jackson was used to taking beatings early, but he was still pretty much finished. McCallum would not leave himself open as Herol Graham did and he took a great punch so there's not much of a chance of a comeback knockout on Jackson's part.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Yep, a quality shootout, Jacksons such a hard hitter he even gets 'The Body Snatcher's attention. brutal stoppage, maybe slightly early, but knowing what we know of Jackson I think its likely carrying would of only prolonged his beating and led to a genuine stoppage.

    McCallum is, IMO, probably the best H2H 154lb fighter. I even think he beats Hearns at the weight.
     
  8. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Another thing; that is a much better quality video than any of I've seen before of that fight, so thanks for sharing :good
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    Not many fighters have the composure to slip punches and counter with jabs and bodyshots. McCallum is so clinical, throwing what he know will land. Jackson comes out with bombs but after a round of missing and being punished to the body he's clearly put in his place. A premature stoppage for sure though, still who wants to be a ref?

    When asked on his strengths he said he was smarter than his opponents and hes smarter than the fab 5 too for my money, I could see him beating the lot of them
     
  10. Flea Man

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    McCallums ablility to slip and counter in the pocket was top-notch IMO. He shows it well here, wouldn't want to be anywhere near Jackson at that point either :lol:

    I can't really think of anyone who I'd pick to stop McCallum right up to about 12 stone.
     
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  11. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike McCallum is not an early ko kind of guy. Never was. If somebody goes out early against him, you have to take a hard look at the other guy's ability to absorb.

    It was a fairly big fight at the time it happened but just not with 2 of the biggest names in the division at the time. Me, I did not like the Jackson chances in the fight at all but figured he'd make it to the late rounds at least. But Mike was going to take him out to the deep waters and drown him. The only thing that happened was Jackson drowned earlier than that. But he wasn't facing In Chul Baek either.
     
  12. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, but usually he would slowly chase and methodically pick his opponents apart while here he's just trading punch after punch looking for the KO.

    Everyone knows Jackson didn't have the greatest chin, but he could take the beatings usually. However his defense was leaky and his style was to kill or be killed. McCallum shows against Jackson that taking the fight to him is definitely not the key to beating him at 154 pounds, as he could give it as well as take it. He only deserves his reputation as a slow starter against boxers who stayed away from him. If you wanted a fight with him, you got a fight with him.
     
  13. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What else was Jackson going to do, jab and dance? Julian is in a lot of trouble if he's the guy backing up in there. If he's the guy getting backed up by McCallum, he is not going to absorb much for very long before getting out of there. And that's just what happened. He was just facing a much much better grade of fighter than the stiffs he had been matched up with. MCCallum did not have a those koby results by his name the way so many Jackson opponents did.
     
  14. Jersey Joe

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    Yeah, this is the only time I've seen McCallum hurt in his prime.
     
  15. Tin_Ribs

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    Mike is one of the best all-round technicians I've ever watched. Just pure old school mastery of boxing technique. He sort of reminds of a smaller Jersey Joe Walcott with slightly better hand positioning and punching form, albeit without Walcott's magisterial footwork.
    This ranks as a massive win for him, as much for in the way he achieved it (by swallowing Julian's bingo punch first) as for the end result.

    Thanks for the somewhat more crystalline footage TheGreatA.