Mike Tyson against the best of Joe Louis's victims

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  1. criceto

    criceto Member Full Member

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    Baer has very shitty defense and get frustrated when under pressure.
    K.o in early rounds.
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson knocks every single one of them out, only JJW gives him a few problems

    Tyson Kos Louis too.

    There i said it.
     
  3. guilalah

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    While I would favor Tyson, at his best, over all these guys, Louis beat these guys 1935-1948. So the question is, can you take the youngest version of Tyson who could beat Carnera and M. Baer, add 13 years to him, and still favor him over Walcott?
     
  4. Azzer85

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    Hmm good question...thats the Tyson of Francis/Golota fights. Hes got a punchers chance.
     
  5. fists of fury

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    I think to beat Tyson, you'd need a pretty big guy with a very good skillset. Little guys get destroyed, as he proved. Simon and Carnera just don't have the skillset to be competitive.

    People may think that Holyfield was not a pretty big guy and that's true for the era he fought in, but in that era he'd be considered a big guy, and he was also extremely durable and in fantastic condition.

    I can't realistically see Tyson having any real problems with any of those listed.
     
  6. Squire

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    I think I agree. I don't rate Louis nearly as highly as most, I see a massive gulf between the best modern (70s and onwards) heavies and old heavies. The footage I've seen of Louis' best wins surprised me. Those guys looked like nothing more than contenders if I'm honest.

    That being said, Louis is deserving of his high ranking based on his longevity. Tyson didn't have that and rather than using that to glorify his prime like many do, for me it works against him. Could Tyson have pulled off the career Louis did? Probably not because he wasn't the professional Louis was
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Tyson takes all of them. Baer would be a great fight while it lasted and Walcott would cause Mike the most problems before he gets annihilated.
     
  8. Flea Man

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    And yet no one has bettered Louis' punching technique since.

    They looked like contenders. So do most contenders funnily enough.
     
  9. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Tyson would stop:

    Carnera
    Buddy
    Simon
    Conn (would blitz him)
    Maueriello
    Galento (on his feet)
    Godoy(would look like Mathis Jr match)
    Nova(would like Ruddock fights)

    More interesting:

    Braddock
    Old Schmeling

    At worst, I could see them making their way to the final bell.



    And I think Walcott has a good shot at Mike. As does Max Baer.


    But I think the real point is no way Tyson could match Joe Louis' run. If he met these guys in succession like Louis, he would suffer some burn out and upsets.
     
  10. Foreman Hook

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    Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke
     
  11. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Quit hugging Tyson's nuts.

    This post is fornicating with Mike so hard, its making him scream like a woman.
     
  12. Foreman Hook

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  13. banny

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    You're a twat but a funny twat :rofl:rofl :good
     
  14. janitor

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    The question is not whether they could have taken Tyson on his best day, but whether they could have taken him on his worst.

    There are reasons why Louis won at the longevity game and Tyson didn't.
     
  15. janitor

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    Are we alowing for the stage of Louis's career at which he fought these opponents?

    Because if we are then Walcott at least should be strongly favoured.