Mike Tyson: Floyd's style can't beat Pacquiao

To be completely honest, I don't think 100 punches would even be necessary. I think around 80 a round, in that range, and he'll be fine.

Dude. All I can say is watch the Marquez fights. I mean, round 4 Marquez gave Pacquiao one of the worst knockdowns in his career and Pacquiao immediately started charging and slugging with him after.

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.... really... Lol. Well, guess I've been watching the wrong Floyd Mayweather fights.

No. In most cases, Floyd goes against some big boys who tire themselves out because they put in all they have the first 6 rounds. I do agree that Floyd's power is underrated, but I think reduction of punch output is a combination of physical and emotional demoralization from fighting him.

Indeed styles make fight. For Floyd's style, he counters one to two-punch shots. He rarely counters 2+ combinations. Rarely. Watch Ortiz fight. Ortiz sometimes threw in spurts, and when he threw in decent speed + volume, Floyd will cover up. He won't engage that. He doesn't like to throw with his opponent. He likes to stay at a distance, wait for you to tire, and when you're starting to throw these single shots, he'll counter you over and over and over again until your defeated before the final bell even rings.

Yes he does, and I just proved it to you. He increased his work rate to 60 punches a round for 7-12? That's 10 more punches. Also, his work rate the past 3 fights have been better than the three fights leading up to the KO. I did the statistical breakdown in another thread. I don't wanna type it again. It took forever, but I'll find it for you if you want though.

And it's no longer 2005, yes. If a prime Floyd had trouble with Judah's decent speed when Floyd was prime, it'll be interesting to see how he deals with it now being 38 and Manny still being faster than Judah was in 2005.

Used to. He stopped that after he "lost" to Bradley. He felt that was the reason.

Look at the Margarito box score. I realize Margarito is a punching bag, but if Mayweather shells up when he's hit, then Manny could really let his hands go. Idc if Pac's landing. As long as he's throwing his quick combinations, he's making Floyd uncomfortable, so keep throwing punches, 3 min, every round and he has a good shot. He said this is his gameplan anyways, so nothing surprising there.

 

I hope so. It'll make the fight so exciting. I think Manny would love it too. He loves to fight.

 

really....... look at Maidana's total punches thrown and landed against Broner and Mayweather. The difference is insignificant. I will agree, most, but not all. I think if a fighter makes it his goal to throw a lot of punches, like Maidana did, they will.

 

You don't think so? Judah wasn't faster than a prime Mayweather when they fought and any version of Judah is worse than the Pacquiao we have today.

Pacquiao of today is definitely faster than Judah of 2005. Absolutely, 100%. You guys overrate Judah and underrate Pacquiao. Judah was fast, but not as fast as Mayweather or Pacquiao. Definitely one of the few fast opponent's Mayweather has fought though.

 

No way. I believe 100% Pacquiao is faster than prime Judah. Not only speed, but speed with power.

Oh yeah, timing Pac is difficult. But, due to Mayweather's greatness, if Marquez could do it by fight 3 then Mayweather can do it by round 8 of the first fight.

I actually watched the Mayweather/Judah fight yesterday. Best part will always be Roger Mayweather storming the ring to fight Judah, and the riot breaking out. Lol