Mike Tyson had a better career than Larry Holmes.

How do you know it was inconsequential? If he didn't take PEDs he could have got his ass whooped even worse in the 90's. And you should check the meaning of the word evidence, cause all we got is some theories which are not proven. The fact is, Evander never failed a drug test. Unlike the greats like Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley, Canelo Alvarez, Tyson Fury and many more.

 

There is probably a reason for that.

Holyfield was never tested for human growth hormone.

It was a human growth hormone that Holyfield was discovered to have received in 2004.

 

To the contrary they only enable you.......to 50 pages

Even if it is circular for about 49 of them.

 

You're wrong, again. Besides, Patterson won a "vacant" title. Hardly undisputed.

Tyson was younger. It's in the record books. Not opinion, FACT!!

 

Well, if you win a vacant title and there is no one to dispute your claim, you're undisputed.

You're arguing for a lost cause my dude, get off Mike's nuts.

 

It’s in the Fiction section. Please tell us all who disputed Patterson’s claims, & on what grounds.

 

Speaking truth means I'm on a fighter's nuts? Go back to school Tupac. Do something worthwhile instead of hanging around here all day.

FACT: If you collect all 3 belts that makes you the undisputed champion. Tyson did that at a younger age than Patterson did winning a vacant title.

Sorry. Facts outweigh your opinion.

Want more proof? Go to the 18:10 mark. Tyson is introduced as the UNDISPUTED heavyweight champion of the world.

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Your own imaginary fiction section. You're not fooling anyone, hater.

To help you see things clearer https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/youngest-heavyweight-champion-ever-patterson-or-tyson.279531/

 

Well, Wladimir Klitschko was also introduced as the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world at some point. Was he?

Tyson's claim was disputed by Michael Spinks, so Tyson wasn't undisputed until he beat Spinks, which makes him 2nd youngest undisputed champion in the history of the heavyweight division. You can say he was the youngest fully unified champion, but that's it.

 

At this point the EBU belt wasn't considered an alternative world title. That was mainly the EBUs predecessor the IBU. Not that Johansson wouldn't have been a worthy alphabet champ given he was undefeated and beat Machen. Johansson v Cooper like many of the biggest EBU title fights only gains importance after the fact when you know what both guys accomplished.

Patterson fought in an era where alphabet titles weren't given out like the 80s. But if belts were given out like they were in the 80s Machen or Johansson would not have gotten one right away so Patterson would have still been the undisputed champ when his reign started. If Tommy Jackson got an alphabet belt because of their close first fight that would have been resolved when Patterson won the rematch. At which point he was 22. And Machen would not have had a claim until after Patterson had beaten Rademacher.

Its hard to do lineages with subsidiary titles because the champ is vacating so often. I think the focus should be more on who they beat to win said title.

 

You know sickeningly well that I'm the most ridiculous Holmes fanboy here. So it won't bother you when I defend his seven year, 19 defense reign:

I was active watching boxing in the late 70s and 80s and nobody I knew considered anyone but Larry Holmes the champion from when he beat Ali to around when Thomas was champ. We didn't rank Dokes on the level of Holmes, especially when Weaver got robbed in Dokes 2. We didn't rate Page because projected lesser fighters like Berbick beat him.

There wasn't any dispute, Holmes was the Champ. His ditching the WBC belt for IBF, SNL, or U.N.C.L.E didn't make any difference until Thomas, who was kind of a flash in the pan.