Mike Tyson had a better career than Larry Holmes.

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  1. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beginning to? C'mon mate.

    NN has previously stated on this forum that for him the joy of posting is when he can tell he's really getting the other guy worked up.

    Your objective is to argue your viewpoint in good faith.

    His objective is to wind you up.
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Scott Frank, Cobb, Marvis Frazier, Lucien Rodriguez, Leon Spinks.
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course I’ve suspected it for a long time.

    But I’ve never seen him actually admit it.
     
  4. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What has he said that's wrong so far?

    Calling someone a troll is just a lazy way of dismissing actually valid points when you're incapable of arguing them which is sadly very common over here
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Incapable?

    Me debating you and No Neck, is akin to the Mercer-Morrison fight.
     
  6. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ignorance is bliss as they say
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Trish Morrison threatened to sue me. She wouldn’t appreciate your analogy.
     
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  8. Jakub79

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    1. Both men fouled – Peter more.
    2. Style favored Peter. Klitschko looked bad compared to such fighters. He looked good compared to technicians like Byrd.
    3. Peter had a great prime, but it was short, like Tyson. Klitschko had the longevity of Holmes and Lewis. In my opinion, Klitschko wasn't in his prime in 2005 because he was transitioning to a different, more defensive style. He wasn't yet sure of what he was doing.
    4. Contrary to what you write, Klitschko wasn't close to defeat in this fight. Peter knocked him down three times but never really hurt him. Klitschko almost knocked him out standing up, and Peter was ready to finish him. He ran out of time, but it was a decisive victory. With each rematch, the gap would widen.
    5. Due to his short prime, Peter is underrated. If he had retired before the fight with Vita, it would have been considered a great success.
     
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  9. OddR

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    HBO were mostly actually pretty complimentary towards Wlad.
     
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  10. dinovelvet

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    Pater clubbed Wlad twice with rabbit punches as a result of Wlad repeatedly turning his back and grabbing non stop.

    It's not even remotely close to equal fouls. Wlad fouls from the first round till the last.
    The sad thing about it is , Peter was a low skilled brute who couldn't even beat Eddie Chambers.
    He was on the same level as Chris Arroela , Adam Kowanaki, Derrick Chusora.
    Wlad going life n death and needing to hold on for dear life every round exposed his inability to cope under pressure.

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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Peter had a great prime?

    Really?
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Snipes and Shavers came down to favorable calls by the ref for Holmes.

    Wlad was never in any real danger of losing against Peter.
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look, I’ve given you the benefit of the doubt for years.

    Unless I know for sure that someone is trolling, then I will always do that.

    But if Greg says that you’ve actually admitted to it, then I can’t carry on.

    I’ve enjoyed the back and forths, and honestly, fair play to you.

    Thanks for the entertainment.

    But I can’t debate any longer.

    So I’ll just bow out and debate the other guys instead.
     
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  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Vitali used Peter as a human punch bag. Clumsy Peter was nearly falling over himself trying to land a punch. He hit nothing. Not even a jab landed.
    Vitali didn't hold once.
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Looks like I won the debate. idk much about this Greg, but he seem to have control over you.
     
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