Mike Tyson has one of the best comebacks of all time.

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  1. gooners!!

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    The thing with Mike Tyson's opponents pre Douglas, are that they would either fight too defensively, or too offensively, it okay standing your ground, which is vital to a degree against a Mike Tyson, but you have to find the medium between Boxing and!! standing your ground, those guys who went straight at Mike took it literal, its like going from one extreme to another, all defense, or all out attack, Holyfield and Douglas fought and! Boxed Tyson, they found the middle ground between Boxing, but not letting Tyson bully them, but also not getting embroiled in a war.
     
  2. lefthook31

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    A lot of that had to do with Tyson's intensity which was a bit better pre Douglas.
     
  3. gooners!!

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    And talent.
     
  4. lefthook31

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    Douglas was not more talented than Tony Tucker
     
  5. gooners!!

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    But he was beating Tucker, so on his day, you might argue he was.
     
  6. chitownfightfan

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    Tyson never learned to double the jab. He also never learned to deal with opponents who could defend his attack.

    Holy is the best HW couterpuncher in history. Tyson the greatest power hook. Holy pivots, throw a short shot, and drives home a punch he can sit on.

    Tyson could not win that fight unless Holy didnt fight his fight.
     
  7. lefthook31

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    The fight with Tucker was close, and Douglas was talented, but he also lost to Jesse Ferguson and a couple other guys who werent in Tysons league, so in my opinion Douglas overall fits in nicely with the group of contenders Tyson dominated. He wasnt superior to any of them, not even on his best day.
     
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    That would tell me that he was inconsistent, that on his day, at his best, which he was against Tyson, that he was a level above those guys.
     
  9. lefthook31

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    Nah, What about Tysons lack of preparation. He took off 20 pounds two weeks before the fight. He wasnt training hard, he was not doing well in sparring, was overall uninterested in boxing.
    Kind of somewhat similar to Lennox Lewis, who got caught being mentally and physically unprepared when he fought Rahman. Douglas just didnt give Tyson the opportunity to prove it, so this giant myth has been born that Douglas was a superfighter. Of course Tyson was going to look worse, because of his style, going against a boxer.
    Even Lennox Lewis called Rahman the Buster Douglas of the 90's.
    He knew like Tyson, he got caught sleeping against a game opponent.
     
  10. gooners!!

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    Here we go :roll:
     
  11. Jazzo

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    How could it have been more?

    The guy was out for 3 ****ing years!

    He trained harder than most heavyweights. Always came in in shape.
     
  12. Boxmaster

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    Holyfield would have beaten any version of Tyson. Holyfield was always bigger, stronger, faster, better chin, better stamina, better technical abilities, the only thing Tyson had in his prime was more power.

    I don't think Tyson would beat Foreman or Bowe either. He wouldn't have outpowered or outboxed them.
     
  13. Danny

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    And the fact that he was nowhere near as good as he once was should enhance the credit he should get even more. Tyson had been inactive for over four years. He probably had not hit a heavy bag or done any pad work for three of those years.

    He trained like a demon for McNeeley. Tyson had forgotten more than McNeeley will ever know, but it was his first comeback fight, so what did people expect? Tyson to fight Riddick Bowe in his first fight back? Lol do me a favour!

    Bruno was not a bu by any means - he was considered to be stonger, better than the 1989 version. Tyson took care of him chillingly.

    Tyson became WBC & WBA champ, some ten years after he first held those titles. He has to be given credit for that!
     
  14. lefthook31

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    Yeah I dont really want to get into it, but the bottom line is Douglas was supposedly great one night, and then reverted back to the same old Douglas. There's some credence to that. Douglas was a good fighter.
     
  15. lefthook31

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    Nah, he didnt come in great shape for Holyfield 1. Regardless of what kind of physical shape he may or may not have been in, he really didnt have the right kind of trainer in his corner coming off of such a long layoff. He picked up a lot of bad habits that a classy fighter like Holyfield easily exposed. Coming off such a long layoff, you really have to go back to the basics. Jay Bright didnt even know the basics.