Mike Tyson in the 70s

would be smaller due to the lack of hgh and having to rely moreso on dianabol rather than better anabolic compounds, maybe about 200lbs. I think he'd be a good fighter and would probably have a brutal war with frazier in which frazier hits the deck but stops Tyson late due to his stamina issues. Although perhaps with 20lbs less, he wouldnt have the same stamina issues. Still picking Frazier there. For what its worth, i think Tyson would do better into Foreman due to having better defense. He has the potential to outright stop Frazier as well. Ali is a bit awkward. Could definitely see him winning over 10 or 12.

 

lol are you unable to refute their arguments by yourself?

 

You think that HGH is primary driver of mass in PEDs? It really isn’t, Juice heads don’t typically even touch the stuff. Dbol has been around for a long time, it was the answer to the Soviets using T whatever Cus was giving Mike in the 80s he could give him in the 70s.

 

I think I made a thread a long time ago about how Tyson would stop Foreman. I just don't feel like rehashing it

 

Might be in a minority but I don't think pre-prison Tyson used Peds and it was more like a case of a 1:100000 genetic, physical freak.

 

Now this sounds good. Wish Tyson had been around back then really.

 

It is always the case that an individual is equal to a group, not the other way around. The perfect example is Wlad who over the years has shaped the ideal style based on distance control and grab and jab style, more was not needed. It was impossible to do it with Fury, but Wlad was capable of more, so much so that he forgot these skills, did not shape them. Not in a fight. And he could do more. Wlad in the 90s would have been much better and would have gained greater recognition. I think that Tyson competing with Ali, Foreman and Frazier would also be better than competing with Bruno, Douglas, Ruddock, just as he was better competing with Spinks, Biggs and Holmes

 

Bob Foster? lmao
I wonder who would have been his Douglas, maybe he will never meet someone like that since he could lose to Foreman/Alì in their respective primes.

 

Every single top athlete in the 80s til now was on performance enhancing drugs; even a genetic freak would not be able to achieve Tyson's athleticism while training as a boxer. He was the right combination of freak genetics, training and drugs, as is every world class athlete. The drug testing in the 80s and 90s was a joke, and PEDs still very commonly slip through nowadays despite advancements because drug testing simply cannot keep up with new drugs.

 

Agreed.