mike tyson innocent or guilty?

If you keep walking a tightrope....
One day your'e gonna fall off. !!

 

Well if nothing else you've proven to me that you know a hell of a lot more about this case than I do.

I suspected the case was stronger against him then most posters here were suggesting otherwise presumably it would have been appealed and over turned. The fact that it wasn't means there had to be some evidence that he raped her and apparently there was enough for the prosecutor to get a conviction and for his legal representatives not to appeal the result.

 

The doctor who examined Washington did not say that the bruising could only be caused by non consensual ***. The doc said that it is generally caused by non consensual ***, but admitted (though extremely rare) that it could be caused by rough ***.

Tyson's story had inconsistencies for sure, but Washington also had inconsistencies in her story. For one thing, she denied that her and Tyson were kissing in the back of the limo, yet three eyewitnesses (who were denied the right to testify for the defense) claimed that "they were all over each other" in the limo.

Vince Fuller bungled the case for the defense badly. Nobody who has studied the case has ever said that Fuller did a good job. He was out of his depth and never listened to his council, who knew the Indiana courtroom system. Why insist that Tyson take the stand? Why put up such a lame cross-examination of Washington?

It must also be noted that two of the jurors, when asked months later about the verdict, admitted that they would never have reached a guilty verdict had all the evidence and facts been brought to their attention during the trial.
One of them even went so far as to say "we thought that a man raped a woman, but it looks like a woman raped a man."

In addition to the criminal trial, Washington also sued Tyson in a civil capacity. I forget the figure now (have to check) but it was for an awful lot of money. She was in negotiations with a reporter to have a book published.
And yes, two years prior to the **** trial, Washington did accuse either a friend or a boyfriend of raping her. Doesn't this sound just a little odd to you?

I'm not supporting Tyson as such, but certainly there was a lot going on that didn't add up. If he was guilty then he got his due. But what if he was not guilty?

 

Well sadly there's overwhelming evidence that literally hundreds of people are in prison, some on death row, for crimes they didn't commit. So relatively speaking whatever injustice may have befallen Tyson it's nowhere near as bad as some. Recently two brothers who spend 30 years in jail were exonerated. That said, one innocent person serving time is one too many.

 

swagdelfadeel, what is not the point? You did not give any tangible rebuttal at all.

I addressed your points, & my own relevant & valid to make a case about.

Your brittle cursing that you don't care what i think is jus' the usual anger-management lowest common denominator stereotype that sadly is strong on the Internet & other anonymous forums. And has too often highjacked this web site.

Don't worry though (or get your hopes up, whatver may apply), I will never mirror your emotionally triggered anger. Profane attacks actually prove someone DOES care, & is defensive through aggression.

but your thread served a valuable purpose. Since the vast majority of responses were considered & introspective, not driven by psychological identification, projected animus & bias.

This is a great attitude to consider internalizing.

 

And there a re guys on this site, that have the temerity to condemn floyd!! mike is/ was a very dangerous person as a youn child folks. This cannot be disputed, ask teddys niece!! mike, tries to hide this behind tha cus psuedo psycho babble!!

 

hey Swag, the irony is that I am being myself. And while you can be in intelligent poster sometimes, you sometimes-& when emotionally triggered-confine yourself to being a lowest common denominator, content-free anger management cliche. Thus when I use considered, yet relaxed & authentic language, you assume that this is like an "air" or insincere-because you react this way, & cannot fathom someone being real-much more so than just having a tantrum-when they use a different tone or style than you.

Anyway it all comes down to being tolerant & driven by thought, not knee-jerk rage & projecting inner angest & pain upon others. Such as...not being like Mike Tyson has been for most of his life!

 

His attorney's case ironically persuaded me that he was guilty. I think it's a case of chickens coming home to roost .

 

I've always thought that Tyson was innocent....and was wrongfully imprisoned.

 

As said before Tyson tried to flee the state after leaving Desiree despite being booked in for the weekend, 2 forensic experts believed she was raped, he's been accused of ***ual assault 8 times, multiple witnesses said she was traumatized after leaving him, he has a long history of ***ual abuse & violence towards women & he's said he likes hearing no from women, likes hurting women ***ually & "he called me a ****** & a recluse. I'm not a recluse". He was guilty.

The only thing unfair about this is that Tyson only served 3 years for the same crime that has had Ike Ibeabuchi in jail for almost 16 years. Tyson should have been locked away for at least that amount of time!

 

Washington testified under oath that midway through the *** romp with Mike that they changed positions. Tyson asked if she'd like to 'get on top'.
She replied 'Yes'.
Washington says this was mainly for her to feel in 'control'.
In my view Washington lied.

 

What's your overwhelming evidence on OJ?