Mike Tyson KO1 Jack Johnson?

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can say the same thing about any other HW basically. Douglas never faced anyone close to Tyson until he beat him. Holyfield also never fought anyone close to Tyson, but he beat him twice.
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Sure. But those were modern heavyweights who were accustomed to throwing serious combinations themselves (both Douglas and Holyfield were superb combination punchers)

    I have yet to see any footage of Johnson where he demonstrates the fluid and powerful combination punching that more modern heavyweights displayed. I just do not see how Johnson can keep Tyson at bay.
     
  3. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    show me where to find footage of you, i wanna see those world class boxing skills of yours.
     
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  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnson used combinations against Burns and Willard.

    I think that we have to agree to disagree on that term. I don't even pick Johnson over Tyson, but I don't agree that he has no chance and would be knocked out in one round.
     
  5. mcvey

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    Very decent post without a trace of agenda,refreshing.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    And Moran ,Jim Johnson,Willard,Felix,Jeffords,Kaufman Lang ,Ferguson . lol
     
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  7. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Then what am I then ?! In case you didn't know, I'm in my mid 30s, so that would make me pretty modern as far as I'm concerned.

    Marciano maybe isn't, but the other 2 are almost from a century ago, that's a very long time.


    And you would know that cause ?!????
    I hit really ****in' hard and I'm very fast. I'm definitely more skilled than Schmelling. As for durability, that's hard to gauge, but I'm definitely more durable than most of the small HW's from 1900 to around 1940, like Tunney for example.
     
  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're a guy who boxed at low level when you were a child and stopped doing so. By your own words, you've never fought a real fight. You're not a boxer, you're just a guy who likes boxing. Just like I'm not basketball player, even though I played in the league when I was teenager and I'm still playing in free time.
    Cause you're a keyboard warrior who never fought at any respectable level and who's not a boxer.
     
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  9. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    In case you didn't know, you don't need to be a pro in order to hit hard.
    And a good amateur level is more than good enough to dispatch the primitive boxers from the turn of the century.
     
  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know that, but you proved your power against who? Your friends on sparring? Or these child you fought against? Have you ever fought even a ranked amateur HW? Or even LHW?
    You are not a good amateur level, you're just a passionate man who sparrs with friends.
    Besides, there is nothing primitive about Schmeling.
     
  11. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    who's tyson's big win, he laid on his back more than, ALI, FRAZIER, FOREMAN, HOLYFIELD, AND MARCIANO COMBINED!!!!!! NOT AN ALLTIME GREAT IN MY BOOK, IF HE'S TOP TEN , ITS NUMBER 10, HOLYFIELD WOULD BEAT EM AGAIN!
     
  12. mcvey

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    How do you know you are, "definitely more skilled," than a former heavyweight champion? More durable than professional heavyweights from 1900,to1940 ? I was under the impression that you haven't had any professional fights,am I wrong?
     
  13. mcvey

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    No you dont, but you need to have a certain level of skillset to be able to deliver these punches against professional fighters.
     
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  14. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I took up boxing as a kid and even though I didn't turn pro, I still have trained and sparred regularly since then.
    So my skillset has improved and stayed at a good enough level.
    I just need one clean shot against someone like Tunney and he's down and out for the count.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Who have you been sparring with?
    How many amateur contests did you have ?
    What was the results of them?
    Which amateur boxers have you ko'd?
    Which professional fighters have you ko'd?
    FYI. Nobody ko'd Tunney in 88 contests, and he was only dropped twice.
     
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