So SEAMUS, do you favour KlitSisters VS any previous ATG Heavyweight ever, (expect Lenny Lewis, who TKO6 Quitali), becuase of their soviet-steroid-programme stupendous size??? :think:think
The Klitschkos are woefully underrated on this forum really never has there been more dominant champions and for Wlad to come back from what were almost career ending defeats is exceptional, but no one gives them much credit here.
This quote is so good and correct . D only part that can b questioned about it is d part that i colored in red . Mike Tyson and Freddy Roach know their stuff , maybe except most of d times (but not this 1) in which Tyson is being respectful and most of d times when Roach speaks about 1 of his disciples , past , present or future . In those cases Roach is usually doing business and Tyson's trying 2 ensure his HOF induction or something .
At least Vitali would have been 2 big , durable and fight spirited 4 him 2 lose 2 any of d past's "greats" . Only 1's who could (not necessarily would) beat him were D Atomic Bull , BBG , SNV , and maybe RLB and LCL , I think any other pick over Vitali is a big long shot . Of course Byrd is not a big long shot . Holyfield may have had a good chance , but surely not a big favorite . Regarding Wladimir , in addition 2 d mentions above 1 could add Lamon Brewster , Corrie Sanders and Ross Puritty and remove Byrd , and also add Tyson . Louis and Liston would have been live underdogs against Wladimir , but underdogs nonetheless . And this comes out of a safety 1st betting agenda , not out of what would have been d most realistic single scenario which favors Wladimir even slightly more .
Generally good comments. He's honest to a fault these days, to the point where I want to go: "Hey Mike, you did some good stuff too, you know." In general, athletically speaking the cream of the crop are as good as they've ever been. Thing is, if you look at the staggering athletic talent in the NBA or NFL, then you realise that it could a lot better yet, if boxing was a more popular sport.
I don't know if I agree with Tyson or not, but he makes an interesting point. It does seem that some people believe strongly about the reality of the evolution of boxers, but often only up to the point of their own era. Say they grew up with Tyson's era, they might say Tyson was too "modern", too big, too powerful, for Marciano and Louis and Frazier ..... but they won't then extend that to Wladimir Klitschko being too "modern" for Tyson.
Very astute point. There will come a time when the Klitschko's will be regarded as old-school and not as good athletically at the current heavyweight champ, whomever he will be.
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You never been to boxing scene have you? Over there it makes here look like K2 EXPRESS Fan boy site. Every major boxing community mostly share the opinions K2 are kings of a awful HW Era.
You irritated me and made me angry. Something I do not like. This Era got the fattest ugliest most nonathletic most disgusting looking Heavyweights ever. Stop projecting an image of intelligence with posts like that. Also the 90's guys were massive. So no they did not get bigger. Guys like Ruddock was 6'4 Bowe was 6'5. Biggs 6'5. They just carried around less weight because they did not live under a bridge made of tacos and cheese. Riddick Bowe who people widely considered a piggy fattie later on, in today's era would have been 'fit' The k2 express look good but that's it. Everyone else is fat deformed or semi ******ed. Guys like Valvuv crawled out of a donkey kong video game and is pretending to be a boxer. Guys like Povetkin and Eddie Chambers are not even real human beings, they are just clay made toys that will burst upon contact. They are pudgy fat baby roller pigs just like fat boy Chris Arreloa. This era is pathetic beyond belief. I give massive credit to K2 for dominating all the fatties and roller pigs, but let's not forget how fuking disgusting and fat everyone else is in this era and how every single HW of this era not name WK or Vk is living off butter and eating bacon grease every night for dinner.
i love when tyson says this kind of stuff and all the haters (who are lovers of tyson and other black american heavyweights) short circut and dont know what to say...lol..
Why bring race into this dude. When you have a K2 Picture on your avatar and you bring race into a discussion like this, it clearly shows your agenda. Will you like the k2 if they were black? If you say 'yes' I say you are lying. Don't answer that question. I know you like K2 because they are white. That quote you said regarding race clearly shows your agenda. Sickens me. Do you think Chambers is not as fat as Arreloa or fat boy Samuel? Everybody's fat in this era ok other then K2 and Haye. Everybody is fat and greasy and ugly and bums. Not just the Euro bums but the American black roller pig bums as well along one fat mexican bum. Everyone's a bum. Not white not black not brown EVERYONE IS A BUM IN THIS ERA other then k2. So stop bringing race into a discussion where it does not belong. Everyone's fat and a bum, this era ring magazine gave like a failing grade for a reason.