mike tyson prime for prime would beat any heavyweight that ever lived

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  1. Madmanc

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    i do respect tunney hence why i said in my earlier post he could go down as greater than tyson,he was a pioneer and was a master boxer of his day.he was great in his time,tyson anihilates him,and yes i would class holyfield as a far better boxer
     
  2. Nay_Sayer

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    '86 Tyson was still a work in progress. '88 Tyson would have cleaned Lewis' clock. No doubt.
     
  3. Madmanc

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    your completely disregarding what i said in my earlier post of him beating everyone in front of him when he had focus and before losing everyone that meant anything to him.like i said if louis can be judged on the bums he beat up on then tyson has no shame in who he fought and destroted
     
  4. Madmanc

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    i dont understand why lewis' win over tyson ever gets brought into the debate over who would win prime for prime.tyson pre lewis struggled with frans botha,had hell with him infact,are going to say prime tyson wouldnt flatten him sharpish ?
     
  5. Rage of Wodan

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    I'm not judging Louis.
    You want to force Tunney to come to the modern era to face Tyson. Not that I think it matters, but why not force Tyson back to Tunney's era? Tunney's record and accomplishments and skill put him top ten all-time. I don't care how unpopular that opinion is. Tunney is blinked at. And that is an atrocity.
    We'll agree to disagree ... and I enjoy our debate but, Tyson is no Tunney. Tyson got knocked out by Buster Douglass. And he didn't "get caught". He got his ass beat. In his prime.
    Tunney lost ONCE! And was knocked down only ONCE. and that was by a Jack Dempsey left hook, right and short left. That combo would have slaughtered anyone else. Dempsey was the best their ever was. Yes, I know he was done when he faced Tunney, but Tunney has other feats.

    Hail Gene Tunney!:happy
     
  6. Rage of Wodan

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    He ddnt struggle with Botha! LOL
    Botha kept holding Tysons arms and once and awhile he'd scream and karate chop.
     
  7. Nay_Sayer

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    Desperation.

    I'm a huge Lewis fan and celebrated when he sent Vitali back to Planet Klitschko with minced meat for a face. However, '88 Tyson was hell and hot water...
     
  8. Madmanc

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    ha i'll leave you to believe that.the tyson that lost to douglas was a far cry from a peak tyson,his corner was an absolute joke for the fight,he was undertrained and unfocused against a man possessed who fought the fight of his career and fair play to him,douglas should never be discredited for that performance but the tyson that beat holmes berbick and spinks does the same to douglas.
    with regards to tunney he is no doubt great and there is a lot more to him than his wins over a past it dempsey and whoever blinks at him and doesnt see he was a great dksab
     
  9. Madmanc

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    im not a nut hugger or whatever you call them,i was a fan of tyson,im also a fan of ali,lewis,marciano holyfield.i just like to say boxing as i see it,whats the point in lying ? if i didnt think he was good i wouldnt degrade another fighter to make him look better.
    people go on that tyson avoided mercer as if to say tyson was never as good as mercer.put mercer in all of tysons fights and does he do what tyson did as convincingly?? i dont think so,infact lets not mention holmes
     
  10. Rage of Wodan

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    Last comment my friend, I promise;)
    The Tyson that beat those guys you mentioned beat guys who were defeated before they stepped into the ring. They were terrified. That's why it looked like that.
    Also, Holmes was fat and old. I saw that fight. Holmes was grbage. He couldn't move. Tyson just exploded on a human punching bag. That's not impressive to me.
     
  11. Madmanc

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    he was a lot younger than the holmes that went the distance with holyfield and beat mercer,ya get me ha ha
     
  12. boxershorts99

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    Hamburger , would you please shut the fvck up . Do you even watch boxing or is it something you have heard about through conversation at your Dungeon and Dragons/comic book conventions ? Oh no , you are gonna put me on your ignore list , I think I'm going to have to drink bleech now bc you won't share all of your boxing wisdom with me anymore .
     
  13. G Man

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    I am saying that Tyson showed a momentary tiny glimpse of his old self and Lewis looked disorganised, thankfully for Lewis Mike was drugged up, out of shape, years past his best and in the throes of a mental breakdown with zero confidence and only in there for a payday.

    Just watch that first round again but imagine the monstrous force of nature from 1986 in there instead. Lewis would be just another highlight reel KO, too slow and clumsy with a glass jaw. Prime Tyson would see those jabs coming a mile off, slip everything Lewis threw, get in close and just take him apart.

    Think about it, it took Lewis 8 rounds to beat a Tyson that was reduced to nothing more than a nostalgic punching bag, prime Tyson never got touched by faster fighters than Lewis. This is an unwinnable fight for Lewis, Mike could KO him in any round or beat him comfortably by decision.
     
  14. Rage of Wodan

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    Yep, Tyson would have slain Lewis. I agree with that.

    Holyfield was the best HW of the 90's.
     
  15. Rage of Wodan

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    You are out of line. You should be banned.