Mike Tyson ranks higher than Joe Frazier

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  1. ZoDoX

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    In which way Frazier rank higher than Mike?
    Title Defences=Mike
    UNDISPUTED=Mike
    Wins over Reigning Champions=Mike
    Title reigning=Mike
    Wins over top 10 contenders=Mike
    Boxing Ability=Mike
    Resume=Mike (1 win doesn’t make your resume better then douglas has best resume ever)
    Heart-Frazier
    5 Notable wins:
    Frazier 1. Ali (beat Undefeated Ali) 2.Jimmy Ellis (won title) 3.Foster? 4.Bonavena 5.Quarry
    Tyson 1. Spinks (Mike Unified all belts Destroy ATG in 90 seconds 2.Trevor Berbick (Won title Youngest HW champion ever) 3.Frank Bruno (released from jail and win Title) 4.Tonny Tucker (Won IBF title become first HW to hold all 3 belts) 5.Larry Holmes (Larry was never KOED before or after Mike and later school mercer and almost get draw with Holyfield
     
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  2. Furey

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    Frazier has arguably the single greatest win in HW history.

    So no...... Mike doesn't rank higher.

    Also Frazier was the "undisputed" champion himself at the time and furthermore after the result when he put any claims that Ali was the true champion to bed.

    He went into the fight as the WBC, WBA and Ring Magazine champion.... the IBF title wasn't even invented until 1983.
     
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  3. ZoDoX

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    Buster Douglas have best single win in History HW Goat
     
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  4. 70sFan865

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    It's not close to Schmeling vs Louis or Frazier vs Ali
     
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  5. 70sFan865

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    Tyson doesn't have better resume, far from it. Frazier's resume isn't based only on his win vs Ali.
     
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  6. ZoDoX

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    Ali past prime and Mike tyson>Louis
     
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    He have in which way 190 lbs ellis would beat someone like ruddock in no one most of that frazier resume are 190 lbs guys
     
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    3 of Ali's 4 top 4 greatest win's came when he was so called "past prime" lol........
     
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    What against an out of shape, uninterested, coked up Mike Tyson...
     
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    Doesn’t matter Prime Tyson>past prime ali
     
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    Still Prime tyson rahman and douglas ATGS in my books
     
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    The opponents so called "Past prime" Ali beat pisses on anyone Tyson ever beat in his prime
     
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  13. 70sFan865

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    Ali had some of his best wins after Frazier I, it's not true he was past his prime.

    No way that Mike is better than Louis. Louis lost only once until 1950 when he had brain damage, while Tyson lost three times before he slipped down. It's not even close.
     
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  14. Rakesh

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    I did a thread where I asked people this question, majority said Frazier with the fact Fraziers accomplishments are on par with Tysons, the thing that pushes Frazier in the lead is the win over the greatest heavyweight of all time.
     
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  15. 70sFan865

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    Last time I checked, Ellis was 201 lbs and 200.75 lbs in both Frazier fights - how is that 190 lbs? The only fighter among top Frazier wins that was below 200 lbs was Quarry.

    By the way I'd definitely consider Eliis over Ruddock, he had right style to confuse him and he was good defensively.
     
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