Mike tyson said that he had intentions to face george foreman

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by heavy_hands, Apr 28, 2013.


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  1. Shawn Kemp

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    Sean does it bother you that Foreman went toe to toe with a prime Holyfield and didn't get stopped and Tyson fought a shop worn Holyfield and got knocked out?

    James Tillis was knocked out by Pinklon Thomas in 8, Greg Page in 8, Tim Witherspoon in 1 all before Tyson fought him and Tyson couldn't knock him out so that must mean Tyson can't punch now either right? Wait Tyson fanboys will give you some bulls crap excuse right?

    Alex Stewart was a slow starter. The longer the fight goes the better he gets. Tyson jumped on him early because he traded with Tyson. Alex ran from Foreman most of the fight but still got dropped 2 times in round 2. Foreman let him off the hook and Alex got stronger as the fight went on.

    Alex can box going backward Tyson could not. 2 different styles.
     
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  2. sean1982

    sean1982 Active Member Full Member

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    nope doesnt bother me at all, i certainly wouldnt get angry and start insulting someone because of it. im a tyson fan, but far from a fanboy, im also a foreman and a big holyfield fan too. i just dont like it when any fighter gets completely underrated for the wrong reasons, or overrated for that matter, like some of the other tyson and foreman fans, for that matter.
     
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  3. heavy_hands

    heavy_hands Guest

    this poor kid is mad like hell because i humiliated him on youtube hahah. learn english ****ing ******ed haha , first learn english and then you can talk your trash, you are a complete joke lmao
    jajaj como una rata sigues escondido, no das la cara, porque eres un fracasado, un completo fracasado, yo puedo demostrar lo que digo.. me ves por cam y me ves como soy.. un tio grande, fuerte atractivo, tu ere sun puto tomate, un mierda... una rata que está escondida desde casa, jamás entrenaste a boxeo en tu vida, eres un basto freak que comentó por youtube 4 pamplinas y nada más... estas muerto de rabia porque no tienes forma alguna d eluchar contra mi en youtube porque nadie te hace caso, no sabes idiomas, eres un completo negado... y solo te dedicas a meter meirda aqui desde el anonimato, eso e slo que tú eres jaja, un mierdecilla
     
    heavy_hands, Jul 5, 2013
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  4. heavy_hands

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    no your comment was " stewart did trade with foreman and george could not ko him" it is false and you are a liar, simple like that, now you did change your comment. stewart was not stopped because he did change his tactic and he was running from foreman after he got dropped twice by the old man,, if not he would have been stopped early...
     
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  5. marcianofrazier

    marcianofrazier Member Full Member

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    Heavy hands, you are the biggest joke of the world XD.

    This guy is spanish, he writes me in spanish senteces like this: watch me by cam, you,ll se one strong and ***y guy!!! Jajaja

    Dime de lo que presumes y te dire de lo que careces!!

    Tengo cosas mas importantes que ver tu cara de feo y cuerpo asqueroso jaja.
     
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  6. heavy_hands

    heavy_hands Guest

    jajaj como dije... un papanatas.... mucho blabla pero te quedas ahy, a la hora de la verdad es cuando yega la limitación y el fin del camino de los fraudes como tú, las cosas importantes que tu tienes que hacer es fomentar guerrillas de foros como el patetico crio que eres, que eso es lo que eres, un niñato con los pañales en el culo, jajaja eres penoso te pones a predicar que te hablo en español con la intención de tener el auxilio de alguien jaajaj menudo pagafantas debilucho eres jajaja, a la gente no le interesan nada tus chorradas, tu piensas que por discutir en el foro con otro y contigo, ambos se unirán para insultarme? jajaj madura mocoso, esto e sun foro de gente incluso de 60 años de edad, ellos no pierden el tiempo en tus mariconadas, este foro cambió de propietarios y ya no e slo mismo, todos los foreros con conocimiento nos mudamos a otro, solo los pringados como tú quedan aqui hablando basura, por eso entro e insulto, porke no queda nadie respetable ya jaja, solo monigotes que no saben nada como tú. si tú supieras algo d einglés entenderías como de ridiculos son tus comentarios... jajaja hablas a lo indio.. yo hacer, tener, comer.. y encima en desorden, no se te entiende nada jajaja, estas desesperado por ayuda jajaja, vas a se rmi puta a partir de ahora, cada vez ke te vea te voy a humillar gratuitamente jajaja, por cierto me divertire un rato, los comentarios que tenga tuyos en mis videos los voy a responder como quiera, te voy a dejar como el culo y estas bloqueado, no podrás responder(de todas formas para lo que tu puedes decir, es como si no dijeras nada, al fin y al cabo te hago un favor jajajaja)

    since now you will be my puppet lmao, this kid is looking for help urgently lol, i humiliated him here, youtube and any place on internet. you need help urgently with the english
     
    heavy_hands, Jul 5, 2013
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  7. Shawn Kemp

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    Sean you didn't answer the question. I said Tyson couldn't knock out James Tillis even though before he fought Tyson he was knocked out various times including the first round in one bout. Does that mean Tyson can't punch then or the fighters who knocked James Tillis out could beat Tyson?
     
    Shawn Kemp, Jul 5, 2013
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  8. heavy_hands

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    yes shawn of course that he avoided the answer, just like he did change his first comment.
    he said " alex stewart fought toe to toe with foreman and george could not stop him", of course that i got mad with this ****ing lie. everybody who watched this fight know that stewart ran like a chicken after he got dropped twice. and anyway it is irrelevant, the boxing is about styles... tyson never would fight like that, he was a short aggressive guy and he would trade with foreman... but you don´t expect that this ****** can understand it
     
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  9. marcianofrazier

    marcianofrazier Member Full Member

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    :hi:
     
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  10. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Man Mike is truly crazy

    He would've grilled Foreman back then
     
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  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Tyson had intentions to do alot of things. The second half of his career {post Douglas} he just didnt have the love for the game anymore. He kept fighting because he knew it was expected and he could make a busload of $. Mental illness played a big part is all this "could have"

    Also it was sort of a lose lose for Tyson. If he lost to Foreman or even got hurt during the fight then he wouldve been grilled in the press and by the fans.
     
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  12. Savak

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  13. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    where the other Tyson Foreman thread gone, there was a bit of healthy debate goin on! :?
     
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  14. Saltzy

    Saltzy Bam-O Full Member

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    If they would have fought in the late 80s or early 90s I'd say Foreman would have lost a decision. Tyson was more than capable of going the distance in the early years. It would have been a really good fight, but Foreman's punch output and speed just weren't there in his 2nd career and would have been open to be tagged by massive shots when they punched at the same time. Tyson's body work, speed, and combinations would have won him the fight

    There would have been a lot of holding in the fight I'm sure. Tyson had a habit of holding onto the fighters gloves when they tried pushing him away and Foreman trying his bolo telegraphed uppercuts wouldn't have worked well with Tysons style of keeping a very close tight guard that was glued to his chin.

    The comparisons with Frazier are just off base, Frazier used a up and down bobbing cycle with the crab defense which left him open to vicious uppercuts but Tyson's defense was side to side and had a semi traditional guard that sat low on the face so most of the uppercuts thrown by Foreman would have been blocked.

    Tyson would bang Foremans body and head with combinations and he was quick enough to land several and change angles before Foreman left his crab defense and could fire a punch (See the Holyfield fight). Granted Tyson didn't throw combinations like that but he was just as fast as Holyfield in those years and obviously hit much harder.

    I'd say Foreman's face would have resembled the Foreman-Stewart fight where he would have been a grotesquely swollen and cut mess but he would have went the distance.

    Prediction: Tyson would have started fast like usual, done massive damage to George while making him miss his shots and block them while lighting George up with combinations to the head and body before George could even leave his guard to throw his shots. Foreman's slow jab (very underrated) would have been countered with overhand rights (Tyson-Holmes) and would destroy the left side of Foreman's face.

    Tyson was very good at dodging jabs and countering and Foreman's jab was just too slow to land regularly. The mid rounds would slow down but Tyson still getting off in 15 second bursts and a lot of holding. By the late rounds Foreman will been extremely damaged but will be able to find some success to the body and head of Tyson but just wouldn't have the same power after taking the punishment.

    Tyson wins by 12 round Unanimous Decision 9 rounds to 3 or 10 rounds to 2.



    Prime for Prime - I'd say Foreman wins 6-7 out of 10 times they fought. He was much quicker although his defense was much worse in his prime, his confidence and aggression would put Tyson on the back foot and would back Tyson up to the ropes and bomb him out by the mid rounds most likely. However, it could end up like the Lyle fight where Foreman's caught with a good punch at the beginning of a round and Tyson is an amazing finisher and would put Foreman out unlike Lyle. But most likely Foreman wins majority of the time Prime for Prime
     
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  15. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Tyson turns Foreman's face into the elephant man.
     
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