Mike Tyson Says He Would Beat Both Klitschko Brothers

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  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tyson was too fast for Wlad. Vitali would be a tough fight though for Mike.
     
  2. SUGAR J

    SUGAR J P4P KING Full Member

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    This, brilliant post :deal
     
  3. SUGAR J

    SUGAR J P4P KING Full Member

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    Could find quote where both the Klits say Tyson was their idol, what's your point, Iron Mike is showing respect to two WC, he at no point says in the quotes you found that he thinks he would lose to the Klits.
     
  4. SUGAR J

    SUGAR J P4P KING Full Member

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    Prime Tyson was Tyson up to the buster fight, after that not prime :deal
     
  5. brown-bomber

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    Yup, it would be ridiculous to believe fighters have peaks at different ages. Being world champion at 20 and having an early peak is no excuse, Nevermind spending a few years in jail, partying, doing drugs and not having the discipline to train properly.

    Tyson KOs both unless the brothers turn it ugly like Bonecrusher did. Klitschko's haven't faced a fighter with speed (Chambers is a blown up LHW, Haye had his toe) or power as a prime Tyson.
     
  6. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Peak Tyson('87-'88), with Rooney in his corner, would never be troubled by a 1-2 puncher like Wlad. Vitali ,on the other hand, would give Mike serious problems with his size, strength, toughness,workrate and awkwardness.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Yeah, I wouldn't rule out Vitali making it to the final bell but I can see him being tko'd as well.
    What great punchers has he ever faced? He's there to be hit and if you are there to bit hit against Tyson you are going down.
    When it came down to it , he wanted no part of a good defensive fighter like Haye and is currently avoidng hard hitter Stervine.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I would think that is an excuse. being young and exposed to the evils of the world. thousands of students each year screw up when they leave home at 19.
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    but I agree he should have had the sense to cut back on the parties and ****. he began to belief his own mythology when he thought he could cut corners like that.
     
  9. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    I'm no Klitschko hater, but I dunno --

    Imagine a Prime Tyson (D'Amato version) in there instead of Sam Peter in the first fight he had with Wladimir Klitschko. Tyson would have won that fight by very early KO. Peter was awful and he managed to put a Steward-trained WK down 3 times.

    Any version of Wladimir would have to hold Prime Tyson all night. Even then, WK could still get caught and destroyed. D'Amato trained Tyson was an animal who could box, cut off the ring, and finish. He was also very well conditioned in his prime and could slip a jab like few HWs in boxing history.

    WK has never faced a fighter like Pre-Tokyo/Pre-Prison Tyson in his career. If David Haye could slip WK's jab consistently well, then Prime Mike definitely gets past it and gets off. If Povetkin can close and get in on WK, then Prime Mike definitely gets in with his footwork and explosiveness. Don't think WK can clinch enough before he gets caught.

    Pre-Steward WK would be a shootout, since WK didn't hold then. But he's not quite as fast as Prime Mike, nor can he take a shot quite the same way either. KO loss for WK here too. Mercer was OLD when WK fought him. Mercer also has none of a Prime Tyson's attributes.


    Vitali vs Prime Mike would be very, very interesting. Imo, Vitali does not quite possess the same punching power that his brother has (not at any point in his career either). VK hits very hard, but WK is the one with the single shot KO power. VK's KO ratio speaks for itself, but he has to land a lot of thudding shots to get his opponents out of there. The quality of his opposition is also questionable, since he pounded on a lot of guys who showed up grossly out of shape.

    With Prime Mike, VK would be facing a well conditioned fighter who can move his head, slip ridiculously well, and cut off the ring. VK has never seen anything like that before. History shows that Vitali has trouble when guys are elusive and make him miss shots.

    On the other hand, Vitali is one tough fighter. He's not going anywhere easily. Plus, Tyson is so much shorter than VK. Prime Mike would more than likely have trouble landing anything on VK's chin. If either guy DOES land clean, both of them can take it. I see Vitali vs Prime Mike ending in a UD either way. Vitali definitely survives the distance imo. I'd give him 50% chance to UD Prime Mike just from trying to box him from a distance. Not using the VK from the Chisora fight for this. VK isn't in his prime in that fight, so it would not be fair to gauge him in this case.

    Both brothers clearly beat the faded shell of a fighter who Lewis stopped though. That version of Tyson is not who the discussion is about. He would have zero chance against the Klitschko brothers.
     
  10. Stallion

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    "Prime" Mike Tyson doesn't beat everyone like some people like to say. He was very good, the youngest champion, but considering the way he fought, it was obvious that he wouldn't last forever and many people were pointing that thing out. Being fast, explosive, good inside fighter works against most of the fighters and generally always works against limited opponents, but what happens if someone knows how to keep the distance and to prevent an inside game?

    Regardless of how good he looked against his opponents, a 22-year-old is green for someone like Wladimir Klitschko. And not just that, I don't believe that someone of Tyson's size, skill and tools has what it takes to defeat such a tall, strong, skilled and experienced boxer like Klitschko. If he caught Wlad with a couple of great shots, sure he could knock him out, but it's unlikely to happen Imo. Don't get me wrong, for a fighter with such limitations Tyson was great, sensational, but he isn't superior to the likes of Lennox or Wlad. There isn't such thing as unlimited stamina, and every man around Tyson's size would eventually get tired while fighting against tactics Wladimir Klitschko uses. Tyson being walked down and either knocked out or comfortably outpointed is the way I see it.

    As for Vitali, that's completely different fight, but Imo with the similar outcome. Vitali is there to fight and is not afraid to get hit, therefore I see this fight more dynamical and let's say entertaining. Tyson is obviously too small for Vitali and would take a beating. Vitali has a great workrate but I don't see that as the main factor in the match-up. Not only it would be very difficult for Tyson to get to Vitali, he would also take a beating while trying to do that. Imo Vitali would outbox him and stop him. A fighter like Tyson is too limited for big and skilled guys, at least from my point of view.

    Now if Tyson fought Bowe, it would maybe be different, but that's some other story with some other reasons.
     
  11. tennis

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    Vitali. Kills him

    Against wlad he has a punchers chance, I still give wlad the nod, wlad proved against haye he has no issues with punchers in his prime
     
  12. tennis

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    I think flabby james toney beats prime mike

    Anyone with a chin and a jab could
     
  13. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NO way tyson beats either one. he feasted on guys like bonecrusher smith - at that level. he would be KTFO against both. Buster Douglass kicked his a$$..
     
  14. Farmboxer

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    Both Klitschkos would knock Tyson out, Hell, Buster Douglass beat Tyson! Tyson also said that he would beat Lewis.................
     
  15. rapidfire

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    Prime Tyson would´ve destroyed Wlad.