Mike Tyson technique weaknesses even from 1985-88?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Savak, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. Savak

    Savak Guest

    I know most Tyson fan's would probably consider him the absolute complete package even during his best period from 1985 to 88 but surely he had some weaknesses and things he needed to improve on. One thing that comes to my mind is definitely in clinches, he would always get tied down by fighters and would become very dull. He definitely needed to improve his inside fighting work rate and abilities. Maybe some tips from Joe Frazier might have helped.

    Second i think his Bob and Weave would run out of steam from round 6-7 onwards. Third, carrying his knock out power late into the fight was also another problem.

    Fourth watching the Quick Tillis fight, although he started to deal better with fighter who moved around the ring while throwing punches and jabs at the same time, but this is something he also needed to work on as fighters started to realize that he would get frustrated when they moved about.

    Fifth, i think he was always susceptible to the upper cut close in.

    I am out of ideas, anyone would like to contribute or add some further insights?
     
  2. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No fighter is perfect but Tyson was darn good with Rooney.

    Weakness i saw and it used to make Rooney mad was in the clinch tyson used to accept it Rooney would scream punch out Tyson would do it sometime and it was great he would fire out with combos.

    That is one thing Tyson need to work on and would have kept getting better at it if he had stayed with Kevin.

    In 88 Tyson started to cut this distance down and deal with movers easier Tyson started to attack to the body and not look up stairs i saw this vs holmes he also adjusted well in the biggs fight

    Tyson was getting better every year but he did have weaknesses to just like every other fighter but from 86-88 88 was his best year Tyson was a ATG
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    When Tyson was letting go he was like a cat. There was nothing anyone could do but get hit. The sequence of blows were fast and he stepped or leaped to hit you from the other side before you were ready, knocking you onto the next punch. Doubling up with either hand, switching to south paw and back.speed of thought and the process of delivering the thought was prety instant.

    But whilst he could get off a lot of shots in a burst, often without missing, sometimes the build up to creating the opening was a bit mechanical. If there was a fault it was that whilst he was awaiting to strike there was sometimes a lack of imagination and you could read that he was setting something up.

    The gap between punching and thinking about punching got longer and longer if he was unable to orchestrate everything the other fellow did. Often he did orchestrate everything and it looked great. His confidence grew with each punch he landed and with each punch he landed the more discouraged and open his opponent became but if he wasn't seeing the discouragement or the openings the gaps of inactivity grew. The frustration grew and he often just looked like he was waiting. Tyson was no poker player.

    This was evident in the Tilis, Ribalta, Tucker fights. Tyson won these fights good but sometimes I felt there was a little scope to exploit the growing quiet spells within a round providing the other fellow had the skill, speed workrate to capitalise. It was always going to be a great fighter to beat Tyson.