Mike Tyson, Top Ten Worthy?

I think anyone that DOES NOT have Tyson in their top 10 HWTs needs to wake up & smell the **** because their judgement is woeful.

 

I put Tyson in my top 10.

 

11 is an okay ranking, i just want to know who you put infront of him. Jack Dempsey can get far more criticism than tyson.

 

cuddos, ive got him at 11 as well , ye t i think bonecrusher needs to be mentioned as another tough test for tyson.

 

1 Muhammad Ali
2 Rocky Marciano
3 Joe Louis
4 Larry Holmes
5 Floyd Patterson
6 Jack Johnson
7 Joe Frazier
8 Sonny Liston
9 Ezzard Charles
10 Lennox Lewis
11 Mike Tyson

I was being generous to give Mike the 11 spot. he should really be at 12 or maybe even 13. Of course these rankings are IMO. This ranking reflects Tyson's career as a whole. Now if you want me to rank the Tyson of 1986-88,89 then he easily breaks the top ten and I probably would have him sitting at 5 right after Holmes. Although that is debatable as well , Im not sure Tyson could have handled a prime Holmes but at the same time Im not sure that a prime Holmes could handle the untamed 86-89 version of Tyson . As of this point though Ive got to let the records speak for themselves

 

how can you be so sure? Who did larry holmes beat within 2 years that was a top 10 contender going into the tyson fight? Louis beat multiple top 10 contenders and was on a 8 fight winning streak going into the marciano fight.

 

Many? 5 losses, 2 of which were thought to be robberies is "Many". What about the MANY wins over top 10 contenders/champions he had during 1951-1954???

Walcott was an elite level fighter since late 1945. Thats 7 straight years as a top contender. Hardly "suddenly" like you claim.

Jersey Joe Walcott certainly was

 

You could also say that Tyson DOMINATED guys(Thomas, Bruno, Tubbs, Smith) that either beat or gave Tim Witherspoon Hell.

More like Team Witherspoon never made a match with Tyson. After seeing tyson destroy Bonecrusher Smith and Pinklon Thomas....both whom clearly beat witherspoon....spoon wanted no part of that.

Spoon got dominated and knocked out by bonecrusher smith in 1 round. Dont give me that bull about a fix. witherspoon got caught by a big right hand in the opening seconds and never recovered. Tyson then easily beat bonecrusher. I give witherspoon 4 rounds at best vs tyson. Especially the witherspoon with man boobs of 1987. it will be another thomas and tubbs type knockout.

Thats of opinion. I think Pinklon Thomas Tony Tucker and Tony Tubbs proved themselves at or above the level of tim witherspoon. You overrate spoon to try to make holmes legacy look better than it was.

 

This is a very ******ed post. I doubt you will find anyone on the boards who will agree with this statement. You dont have to critisize rocky to boast tyson. Both rate in the top 6 all time IMO.

Then why were Rex Layne and Joe Louis favorites over him?? Many People thought Roland Lastarza, Ezzard Charles, and Archie Moore all had a good chance to outbox him.

Why should a retired washed up champion have to comeback to prove himself? What did patterson do in the 1950s outside of get utterly destroyed by hardly great ingemar johansson? patterson proved himself no better than walcott or charles

Why should he have beaten walcott easily? Walcott was the HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION coming off back to back wins over a prime ezzard charles


why should he beat archie moore easily? Moore was 45-1 in his last 46 fights and had just beaten HUGE young ranked heavyweight punchers Nino Valdez, Bob Baker, and Clarence Henry

Why should he beat joe louis easily? Louis was 68-2 coming off an 8 fight winning streak with loads more experience. Louis was 6'2 215lb, he had 4" in height advantage and 31lb weight advantage.

why should he beat rex layne easily? Layne was 22 years old 34-1(25 knockouts) 9 to 5 favorite and considered the next potential heavyweight champion by the papers

why should he beat roland lastarza easily? Lastarza was 23 years old 37-0 talented boxer ranked in the top 10

why should he beat harry kid matthews easily? matthews was 81-3, ranked in the top 5, and had won his last 50 fights in a row. A talented boxer.

why should he beat ezzard charles easily? Charles was a hall of fame master boxer and # 1 contender who had just dismantled bob satterfield and coley wallace.

 

I rate Tyson in my top 5.

Head to Head he's second to only Ali in my view. Best blend of power and speed ever seen, Tyson was probably the most dominating ever champion at his best. His wins are under rated too, say whatever you want about Spinks, the fact is that he was the unbeaten former LHW and HWT champion and had never even been dropped. Ruddock, Thomas, Tucker, Tubbs, Bruno, Berbick, Holmes, Golota, and Smith are also good, capable fighters that he took apart. Depthwise he is clearly a step above fellow ATGs like Dempsey and Foreman.

I can see Tyson just missing out on the top 5, but ommiting him from the top ten entirely isn't fair.

 

God bless him. His four-year-old daughter just died. Accidental death at home. Her name was Exodus Tyson.

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/sto...ughter,-4,-dies-day-after-accident/?GT1=39002

 

Pretty sure Exodus was being held in the locker by Mike Tyson room after the Lewis fight.
I belive that was Exodus in the interview there.



I personal think Tyson just miss the top ten.

I can think any were from 9-15 is good for him.

1 Louis
2 Ali
3 Marciano
4 Johnson
5 Lewis
6 Holmes
7 Jeffies
8 Foreman
9 Frazier
10 Sullivan
11 Holyfiled
12 Tyson
13 ete.

That looks about right, by ranking of Sullivan and others are historic impack, and not relly head to head, and since Sullivan is the first superstar of the ring, I think a top ten is worth a ranking for him.

 

Tyson was a victim of his own power and speed. He made real good fighters look like street bums they way he dominated them.