Mike Tyson v Corrie Sanders

[dinovelvet] "Botha gets flattened by a beyond shot Tyson and that somehow equates to Sanders beating the prime , destroyer Mike Tyson of the 80's?"

1) OP never specified which version against which version. Funny, because all I see if folks talking about Corrie gassing etc, which clearly means that they aren't referring to a prime Sanders.
2) The Botha fight was the very next fight after Holyfield fought Tyson. Was the Tyson Holyfield beat also "beyond shot"?

[dinovelvet] "And people call me a troll"

I thought they called you a bet welcher?

[brighton bomber] "bringing up a 33 year old, probably shot and ring rusty Tyson is pointless."

People always refer to 37-38 year old Sanders as "prime". Just sayin'.

 

Own up, who are the 14 idiots who should never be allowed to talk about boxing again??

 

The only people who think Sanders was prime then are Klit****s who have to delude themselves in thinking the Sanders who beat Wlad was some in prime underrated monster who would have been an ATG if only he had the motivation to be in the same condition he was for that one fight.

When in reality Sanders was an old perennial fringe contender who had failed when he stepped up against Tubbs and Rahman was probably having one last run at turning his career around in his fight with Wlad.

 

[body blaster] Own up, who are the 14 idiots who should never be allowed to talk about boxing again??"

Dinovelvet, he lost a bet or something.

 

I've followed Sanders for years, and I think he could have had a much better career than he'd had, if he could have gotten the right chances. A lot of people avoided him, and let's be honest, he was easy to avoid, because he never had the publicity and momentum of a major promoter.

Anyway, somebody said that these comparisons are supposed to be prime for prime. Yet the consensus opinion (of what seems to be the Klitschko haters) is that Sanders had no gas tank, footwork, punch variety, chin or heart. :roll:

That's quite unfair. Sanders had very good footwork in his young incarnation, displayed lateral movement, fought off the ropes well and had an excellent punch selection of his deadly straight left, nasty left and right uppercuts he used on the inside, chopping hooks that he'd rapid fire at an opponent he had on the backfoot and a pretty useful body attack as well. His jab was fast and often thrown in doubles or triples. He had no gassing problems either.

Let me be honest, though. Tyson, especially his early version, would have probably posed problems for Sanders due to his style. Corrie used to struggle to put away bob-and-weavers with the ease that he put away most others, and I never liked the way he let his opponents get shots off up close. Against Tyson that could be fatal, given his power. Then again, I would not write Sanders off either, even against "prime" Mike. Tyson struggled against some less than stellar opponents, and if Sanders managed to put pressure on him in turn, who knows what could have happened to Tyson's somewhat fragile mental state?

Against the version that Botha went up against, though, I'd put money on any version of Sanders to win. :good If they had ever met in the ring, it would likely have been that version of Mike that Corrie would have met.

 

January 1999 Tyson was beyond shot?
What does it make him against Lewis then in 2002?

 

Tyson was a midget that fought in the weakest HW division of all time. Never beat anyone above a club fighter except a 90 year old Holmes

 

atsch

 

I wouldn't be surprised if you fall over a lot.

 

Tyson beat nothing but bums like Tucker, Biggs, Bruno, Botha, Golota, Ruddock

Lewis is an ATG because he beat very good fighters like Tucker, Biggs, Bruno, Botha, Golota, Ruddock

Tyson beat a blown up lightheavyweight in Spinks and old man Holmes.

Lewis beat a blown up cruiserweight in Holyfield and an old shell in Tyson.

Tyson lost to a bum like Douglas

Lewis would never lose to a bum, let alone two

Lewis is the ATG and Tyson not so.

 

He was coming off a near 2 year layoff when he fought Botha.

99-02 is a matter of a couple of years, and in between then Tyson was suspended after the Golota fight as well.

In his fight prior to Lewis, he fought Nielson and came in at the heaviest weight of his career.

In 99-02 Tyson fought Botha (top ten and former IBF champ),
Golota (top ten fighter),
Francis (Euro level),
Norris (top twenty),
Savarese (top twenty)
Nielson (Undefeated but only a couple of decent wins)

Around the same time, Sanders was facing
Jorge Valdez
Alfred Cole
Hasim Rahman (loss)
Michael Sprott
Otis Tisdale

Not only was Tyson facing better opposition, he was busier, he had more than enough to take care of a mediocre fighter like Sanders. Apart from a big punch, Sanders posed no technical problems for Tyson.

Tyson handled Golota in 2000, Golota was always a better fighter than Sanders.

Tyson had a good chin, much better than Sanders and he hit much harder. He took some of Lewis' best and was still fighting back. I dont see Sanders pulling it off. As depleted as Tyson was, Sanders was nothing special.

 

Only a Klit**** would choose Sanders.

 

sanders would be a nobody if he wasn't lucky enough to have a middler as a world champ, someone weak enough to fall instantly to a retired nobody.

 

This is as generous as you can be towards Corrie Sanders. It's still not convincing at all. Mike Tyson quickly gets into range and forces and exchange. His abdominal power and ironchin make sure he gets out on top.

There's nothing Sanders can do to keep Tyson on the outside, and once on the inside there's nothing Sanders can do to win the tear up.