Mike Tyson v Tim Witherspoon.

Great point Sangria, though I don't think Mike would KO Spoon.

 

Another demolition job.

 

Witherspoon really wasn't the type to come in intimidated by Tyson or lie down. Win or lose he certainly would have given a good effort.

 

Like Blood Green, Bonecrusher, Tony Tucker? Maybe like Buster?

Tyson stans tend to overlook the ‘inconvenient’ results that don’t follow the ‘he was a force of nature and no man born of a woman could stand up to him for more than a few minutes’ narrative.

Tim was a big, strong and crafty guy who could bang a bit. I tend to think the best result for Tyson would have been a bit like Ruddock I, with Tim landing and taking a beating but also landing a lot of big, telling shots in a pretty entertaining scrap.

But I could also see Tyson gearing down after Tim survives his initial assault and from the fifth or sixth round on it’s not pleasing to the eye but the rounds are very competitive. And if Witherspoon lands the overhand right, it could get real interesting.

 

More like when Tim had his teeth knocked out my Bonecrusher and blew his chance at a Tyson fight.

 

A motivated Witherspoon (I'm thinking of the best he ever looked, against Holmes). would be a very good fight for both. Tim would look real good from the second or third round to the middle, ut I see Mike punishing him in the last rounds, perhaps stopping him. At the least a UD for Mike.

 

That's what I think of when I consider Tim up against Mike. But as I mentioned above, even a motivated Tim loses imo.

 

And Tyson got completely dominated by Buster Douglas. What’s your point?

 

Tyson beat the crap out of Thomas, who beat Tim, and put Bonecrusher, who beat the crap out of Tim, into survival mode.

Tyson dominated an era whereas Tim didn’t even reach the top spot. That’s a major difference.

P.S. Tyson nearly knocked Douglas out.

 

Tyson knocked Douglas down. He pounded his fist on the canvas, picked up the count and got up and continued dominating Tyson.

I guess you haven’t caught on to how transitive properties don’t work in boxing, I see. Like Ken Norton beat Ali, George Foreman dominated Foreman and, lo and behold, Ali beat Foreman.

Tyson did nothing against Bonecrusher to try to make a fight out of it. One-two-fall-into-clinch. Show me the highlights of how he tried to work with his free hand in close, how he tried to avoid clinches, etc. He was more than capable of falling into a dull fight against a big, strong fellow.

Who knows what happens if Tyson had fought Witherspoon? Be nice if he’d have fought Tim instead of a useless, meaningless second go-around with Bruno.

 

The fight would've happened if he beat Smith like he were supposed to, so I'd think that fight has more relevance. Smith was also peaking for the second one.

 

You're a hypocrite.

Let's do a simple analysis here:
1. Pink beat Spoon. Mike beat the crap out of Pink.
2. Past it Holmes edged Spoon. Mike beat the crap out of past it Holmes.
3. Tim edged Tubbs. Mike beat the crap out Tubbs.
4. Smith beat the crap out of Spoon. Smith hung on for his life against Tyson.
5. Spoon struggled with Bruno. Mike beat the crap out of Bruno.

The pattern I'm seeing here is that Spoon didn't distinguish himself from the guys Tyson was beating the crap out of.

Perhaps your expert level eye test Trumps all of this.

 

Fantasy

 

Tim Witherspoon fought James Smith twice.

The first time he beat him with scores basically identical to the Tyson-Smith scorecards — in each case Bonecrusher won one round.

On the basis of that, I guess you’d reason that Tyson and Witherspoon is a toss-up?

(Of course sometimes it does work: Buster beat the tar out of Tyson; Holyfield waxed Buster; then Holyfield (twice) wiped up the floor with Tyson.)

The version of Holmes who fought Witherspoon in no way resembles the one who came out of retirement with no tuneup and a limited training camp to fight Tyson, by the way.

Transitive properties don’t work in boxing because styles make fights: Tyson knocking out Tubbs, who lost to Witherspoon, doesn’t mean Tyson wipes out Witherspoon ANY MORE THAN Ali losing to Ken Norton, who got destroyed by George Foreman, means that Foreman wipes out Ali.

If Tyson did not fight Mitch Green, 100 percent guaranteed you’d be telling us that Tyson knocks him out in the first round … yet they did fight and Green went 10 rounds.

The Tyson who is completely unbeatable, untouchable, only exists in your mind and you dismiss fights like his slogs against Smith and Tucker and even Green and Ribalta and his completely being outclassed by Buster Douglas as if they never happened or were all somehow anomalies. They’re as representative of prime Tyson as his best KO wins.

 

He didn’t volunteer to get his teeth knocked out and skip a Tyson fight because he had a contract dispute.