Mike Tyson - Video Career Recap

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  1. Rumsfeld

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  2. Rumsfeld

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    Is there a Tyson fan in the house?

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  3. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    If think that every fan of boxing should be a fan of the Great boxers and michael tyson was a Great boxer
     
  4. The Long Count

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    How are there not more comments to this. Excellent work Rummy. Tyson of 87-88 was an absolute monster and had one of the highest "peaks" of any fighter in the division's history.

    The one early fight you excluded was their no footage of it?

    Tyson just was not the same post prison. His being a swarmer type of fighter his absolute peak was never going to last very long anyway but it was clear by 95 that while still possessing incredible power and a world class Chin, his speed and defensive responsibility had slipped greatly.
    Too much hard living outside the ring hurt his dedication and being of such small stature the wear and tear of fighting larger men caught up to him. The Douglas fight and the Ruddock Wars showed the writing on the wall even though his prison sentence postponed his decline. After prison it was smoke and mirrors with careful matchmaking Mcneely, Mathis, Seldon, Bruno, were all guys he could beat, Holyfield upset the apple cart and was only picked because of his abysmal performance against Bobby Cycyz.

    Fond memories of iron Mike. Truly the last mega star the sport ever had, and maybe ever will. Electrifying.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Amazing career amazing talent. Anyone who saw him fight will never forget him. One thing I`ll remember is that once Tyson was in the picture alot of those lazy Don King fighters got into shape because they were a bit scared of what Tyson may do to them.
     
  6. Grapefruit

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    Baddest man in the planet.
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    To me, a young Mike Tyson at his best could've been a virtually unbeatable heavyweight because he had the correct combination of skill, speed, strength, chin, punching power and defense. It seemed as if he was a jack of all trades so to speak. Seemed to be the perfectly balanced fighter. I think Ring Magazine rated him as the best fighter in boxing pound for pound back in 87, 88. Think of how rare it is for a heavy to be named a pound for pound best. Usually, pound for pound best are welters and middles, sometimes light heavies. And as a youngster, even by the standards of a sport where most are retired by age 40.

    Many heavies tend to be at their best mid 20's-early 30's. Quite honestly, I can't think of a fighter that a strong argument couldn't be made for a young Mike Tyson operating at peak capacity to beat.
     
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  8. Ken Ashcroft

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    He achieved so much in his career and is arguably still the most famous boxer/ex-boxer in the world today but there’s still a lingering feeling of disappointment that he could have achieved a lot more.
     
  9. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    There should have been alot more bouts in the 90s anyway. That time frame was such a waste, instead of fulfilling the potential of the greatest era including a heavyweight Fabulous Four:

    - Tyson
    - Holyfield
    - Lewis
    - Bowe

    At least two of them fought in their primes....
     
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  10. The Long Count

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    What Tyson did was phenomenal and he is severely underrated today because of what his career deteriorated into. First of all he was the biggest athlete in professional American sports. The last time a boxer ever held that position in America. It wasn't until the allegations surfaced that sent him to prison that sponsors pulled away from him and made Michael Jordon the de facto sports face of America. Tyson had his own video game at age 21, his fights were must see events with the morbid electricity of a public execution.
    He took apart 3 decent belt holders in Berbick, Smith and Tucker the latter two fighting negatively just to last the distance. Then he blasted out the former great champ in 4 rounds, and took apart the "lineal" champ in 90 seconds.
    That's domination.
    And he did it all by age 22.
    It's a shame for the fans that his outside life affected his in the ring ability and that he continued to fight on as some sort of caricature of what he was once was, a shell that took on Lewis 14 years removed from his peak and a good 11 from the back end of his prime.
    Tyson is an ATG top 10 heavy weight and at his best had a plausible chance to win any matchup you put him in.
     
  11. slash

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    holyfield always destroys him.
     
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  12. Ken Ashcroft

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    I would have probably favoured Tyson had he and Holyfield met in 1991 as originally scheduled.
     
  13. Entaowed

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    Tyson was an ATG great by his early 20's
    Nothing original, but his combination punches, speed, power, movement & technical skills were dazzling.
    Just outjabbing much taller excellent jabbers was impressive.
    I do not think Evander could have beat him without the later strength & tie up tactics-the former I believe he needed PEDs to fully achieve.

    Tyson was all that in his first reign. A rare case of the man matching the hype.
     
  14. ETM

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    I don' t recall anyone beating Mike Tyson until after Robin Givens got through with him . Mike was a kid. Nobody could have handled that level of fame and power at 21 years old.
    He never should have boxed after the Douglas loss. He was done. He didn' t love it anymore. He went on because it was expected of him and he could make $.
     
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  15. Rumsfeld

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    It's a tough call for me. Tyson and Holyfield were both better in 1991 than they were in 1996. I think Tyson lost something against Buster that he would never get back again (beyond the confidence that comes with being undefeated). Tyson seemed to lose focus quite a few times in the Ruddock rematch, so there's reason to believe he may have lost focus against Evander had they fought in November 1991. But then again, Holyfield himself was always a bit inconsistent and he didn't always utilize the best strategies to maximize his chances of winning.

    I'm not sure who would have won had they met in 1991. But I do believe it would have been a more entertaining encounter than the one we got in 1996.