Mike Tyson vs Ali opponents

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How would 22-25 y/o Tyson do against

    Liston1-2
    Patterson
    Chuvalo
    London
    Mildenberger
    Cooper
    Terrell
    Williams
    Folley

    32-36 y.o. Tyson vs

    Foreman
    Wepner
    Lyle
    Bugner
    Frazier 3
    Coopman
    Young
    Dunn
    Norton
    Evangelista
    Shavers
     
  2. mr. magoo

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    I think he beats all of Frazier's victims and in some cases far more emphatically than Joe did.. This includes the 1971 version of Ali who had fought only twice in four years. Foreman is the only one I'm not sold on but I would wager that he gives George a better run for his money than Frazier did.

    EDIT: Sorry wrong thread.
     
  3. uncletermite

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    The only guy left standing is foreman vs a 30's Tyson and I pick Tyson over 70's Version easily,the Tyson that went after Golota would flatten him.Foreman would not mimick holyfields skills or lewis size who hit Tyson over 200 times,i don't even give foreman much punchers chance here,though still being a puncher he has that chance a bit small one.
     
  4. BoxerFan89

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    Tyson loses to Liston, Foreman and Frazier.

    No swarmer can beat a 1970s George Foreman. Stylistically that's a nightmare for Tyson.
     
  5. Big Ukrainian

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    Tyson from Lewis fight gets destroyed by Foreman, early.

    He had 1-round stamina in 2002-2005.
     
  6. James Townes

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    Foreman would have manhandled Tyson.. made to order for him
     
  7. James Townes

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    Shavers by KO
     
  8. N_ N___

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    Clean sweep of the first half. He didn't have good longevity, so the 32+ version would fall apart at some point. Not totally sure why those age ranges are used since they don't correspond to Tyson's career.
     
  9. Big Ukrainian

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    Mostly because Ali was beating top HWs at 20, too. At 22 he was an undisputed HW champ (Tyson at 21)

    He came back at 28 after 3,5 yr layoff (Tyson came back at 29 after 4 yr layoff).
     
  10. N_ N___

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    Right, but the peak of Tyson's comeback was at about age 30. That version would still be live against Foreman. At 35, Tyson would have little chance.
     
  11. Big Ukrainian

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    Yes, the diffeence between 1996 Tyson and 2002-2003 Mike was BIG.
    Tyson from Nielsen, Lewis or Williams fights would've lost to Foreman, Lyle, Young, Norton, Shavers, Frazier from Ali' 2nd reign.

    1996 Tyson does much better though
     
  12. uncletermite

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    One has to remember motivated Tyson was a different Tyson,knowing he would have Foreman standing on the otherside would have prompted him to get in the game and so forth...lewis presented problems that foreman at any age could not.I'll take the Tyson who fought Lewis any day over 70's Foreman ,he took over 200 punches from a guy who had a stronger right hand then foreman did...the 90's foreman?well then I would say foreman because he had the girth and chin to push a old Tyson back.
     
  13. Big Ukrainian

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    Tyson who has fought Lewis and Williams was just a punching bag after 2nd round. Yes he could take punches, but he wasn't dangerous after 1st round at all.
     
  14. Ragamuffin

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    I can't even get to grips with the thought of an any era Tyson in the same ring as Brian London, J.P Coopman or a *** *ie Dunn.
     
  15. uncletermite

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    Actually he was doing fine with Lewis up until round 4 ,he started to give up and thought then he knew he lost his shot.Foreman would never be a hard target to hit,he had close to ZERO defense in the 70's,if Lyle can drop him multiple times Tyson would flatten that version of Foreman.you also have to remember a 250 pounder leaning on you is different than a 220 one,Tyson would actually out weigh Foreman of the 70's he was nearly 240 in the lewis fight,slow and sluggish but still powerful.