Mike Tyson vs Buster Douglas 2 in 1999

Douglas was too old & no punch resistance.
we see what Saverese did with him & what Tyson did with Saverese around the same time.

 

Tyson was still a top 10 or top 15 world contender. & Douglas? was not far above the lowest rung in professional heavyweight at this point.

 

After Buster was cut the big check, he was finished as a top level fighter. Tyson by 4th round KO.

 

No contest at all. Be surprised if Buster sees the 2 nd tbh

 

Buster had diabetes.

 

Does the guy who fought Holyfield show up? If that Buster shows up, Tyson stomps him.

 

Even if Douglas had trained like he did in first Tyson still beats him. Douglas was 39 and his chin was completely gone.

 

A completely irrelevant bout, even if Tyson beat him that wouldn't change the fact that Douglas kicked his ass when he was at his physical prime.

 

Billy Douglas passed away in 1999 so I’d assume Buster would be motivated like he was when his Mother passed away in 1990 and come out and comprehensively outbox Tyson until being dropped in the 8th and receiving a controversial count, then rallying and battering Tyson to defeat in the 10th with a semi conscious Tyson groping for his mouthpiece as the referee counts 10 over him.

 

Tyson was not prepared for that fight one bit, him being still young is irrelevant.

 

Have you got any evidence backing your claims up, his excuses afterwards just won't cut it I'm afraid, let's not forget Tyson tried to get the result overturned with the bull**** long count excuse.

 

Upon taking complete control of Tyson's career, Don King fired everyone who had essentially worked with Tyson from the time he was a teenager, including his trainer, cornerman, and manager. Bill Cayton, Kevin Rooney and everyone else was either terminated or had died by that point.
Hired in their stead, were three obscure personalities named Rory Holloway, Aran Snowel, and Jay Bright. These were the men who worked with Tyson for some 18 months following the dissolving of the original team Tyson.
In the meantime, Mike had gone through several episodes of exercising erratic behavior:
- he had since been divorced by Robin Givens, and during the whole process, had made death threats to her and her mother;
- he had been involved in a car accident (allegedly called a suicide attempt ) where he was injured-postponing the Frank Bruno fight, which had an original date of October 10, 1988;
- he had been in a fist fight with ex-opponent Mitch Green which left Green's face a bloody mess, and Tyson's hand temporarily injured;
- he performed in subpar fashion against Frank Bruno;
- he would lose yet another family member, as his sister Denise Tyson would die tragically in her late 20's.
With his list of blood relatives dwindling, his former team dispatched, his life going to pieces, and working with incompetent management for over a year, Tyson entered the ring against James Douglas on February 12th 1990.
Tyson spent the weeks prior to the fight staying out late and rendezvouing with the local escort services. Additionally, he was struggling during training sessions, and at one point was dropped by Greg Page in a sparring session.
During the fight with Buster, Tyson was rarely making an effort to close the sizable gap against the much taller Douglas, whereas against other tall opponents with reasonable jabs, such as Tucker, Holmes, Tubbs, and Biggs, Tyson had slipped the jab and followed up with a barrage of combinations coming in. We saw little or nothing of this against Douglas.
Following the match, boxing legends, Gil Clancy and Angelo Dundee were interviewed on HBO. Both agreed that the corner work in that fight was some of the most unprofessional that either man had seen in quite some time. Snowel was using a dissolved bag of water to try and reduce Tyson's swelling over his eyes, while calmly giving him ambiguous advice with no real instruction " Mike your not closing the gap." All the while, Tyson sat with his head down during every intermission between rounds. There was clearly no interest here...
Mike Tyson was not the same fighter who had thoroughly flattened the division between 1986-1989. By this point, he was the product of an unstable life outside of the ring, as well as a cash cow who was poorly managed.

 

I've heard it all before fella, Tyson fanatics expect him to get a pass that no other fighters get for a loss.

The facts are he was knocked out and dethroned at his physical prime, this wasn't some lucky punch, Douglas dominated Tyson from the opening bell and beat him up.

Now we could all go on what if's, if Douglas had been more committed he may have dominated the HW scene for years and Tyson may have never got a look in.

 

Tyson was not prepared properly, that's a fact whether you like them or not. Now, that doesn't automatically mean he'd win, but the match will surely look way different if Tyson was focused and ready.
And every fighter gets a pass if he has legitimate reasons for a loss. That doesn't mean the loss is discarded alltogether, it just means that it doesn't bare the same weight anymore.
For example, Lewis lost to Rahman. That doesn't mean the loss is erased, but anyone with a brain can look at the circumstances of that loss and see that Lewis underestimated Rahman and wasn't properly prepared.
Douglas lost to Holyfield, but guess what, he was 15 lbs overweight and anywhere near as prepared as he was vs Tyson.
Circumstances matter dum dum.

Perhaps he would have done so had he had the discipline, he certainly had all the tools necessary.