Mike Tyson Vs Buster Duglas "the long count"

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  1. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did anyone Notice that ref started his count, one to two count behind the out side ref's count ? As soon as Douglas hit the canvass the out side ref immediately starts the count at one , the ref direct Tyson to a neutral corner then moves over buster and then pick his count up at 1 ,but the out side ref is clearly hold up I believe 3 finger, the ring ref never check with the out side ref to verify where to start the count.

    Based on that fact alone Buster should have been counted out .. I alway though Tyson and King were making up an excuse for his lost but after looking at the fight after a long while , the ref clearly made an error.
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    could of,should of,would of....but didnt

    Tyson should of never gotten rid of Rooney
     
  3. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    understand that but the ref clearly made an error in this case ..

    look to the left and you will see the out side ref has 3 held up while the ref start at 1

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  4. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow Im surprised that no one is shocked at this ..
     
  5. EARL

    EARL Active Member Full Member

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    Because it really wasn't a slow count. The ref did exactly what he's supposed to do.. direct the fighter to a neutral corner and then begin the count. There's nothing controversial about it.
     
  6. boxingabc123

    boxingabc123 Member Full Member

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    This long count stuff is stupid. Mike Tyson probably didnt buy into this **** until King and his crew filled his head with nonsense.
     
  7. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what do you mean the out side ref is clearly holding 3 fingers up when the ref start at 1 it is the outside ref job to keep track of the count , it is the inside ref job to start the count according to the outside refs count !!! those are the rules !!!

    in this case the ref ****ed up ..
     
  8. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    looking at this tape, he had a dame solid case .. the evidence is right there
     
  9. Nigel_Benn

    Nigel_Benn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its true the ref gave Douglas a long count but he also gave a long count to Tyson as well, Douglas was down 13 seconds Tyson was down 14 seconds.
     
  10. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Maybe Mike should have finished Buster off after he got up instead of getting KTFO his damn self.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    There was the fact that Buster only started to get up at about 8 and was half way up at 9, where most refs would've called it. He stopped the count at 9 while Buster was still getting up, whereas he stopped counting for Tyson at about 8 when Tyson was fully up.

    No doubt Douglas was in better shape in comparison at the time of their knockdowns, but hey, rules is rules, and that's where the controversy lies.
     
  12. MasterFlo

    MasterFlo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh come on, compare that to the Tunney-Dempsey long count, now that was a long count.
     
  13. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The referee technically gave Douglas too much time, but you're wrong to claim that he "should've been counted out." He was waiting for the opportune moment to get up. If the referee had kept in perfect synchony with the timekeeper, Douglas would simply have regained his feet a moment earlier.
     
  14. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, the ref is usually waits for the fighter who scored the kd to be in a neutral corner, then he starts counting. The outside ref started counting as soon as Douglas hit the canvas.
    But anyway, douglas could have gotten up quicker, but he waited out the lenght of the count like a good pro is supposed to.
     
  15. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What really annoys me about long count discussions is that most 8-counts take longer than an actual 8 seconds.
    A good example is the Mayweather-Corrales fight. I don't know how long Richard Steele thinks a second takes, but if you pay attention you'll notice that Corrales got about 12 or 13 seconds to recover from each of his knockdowns.