Mike Tyson Vs Buster Duglas "the long count"

The fight took place in Japan not NY so their rules mean jack ****.It was a championship fight for the WBC/WBA/IBF titles. The unified rules of the association of boxing commisions were in effect. There is no third party that can stop the fight period. Not the doctor not the timekeeper, only the referee. Hell watch any of 1 million fights on HBO or any other network where they read the unified rules before a fight. only the referee can stop the fight.

 

I'm curious then, do you remember why it was never overturned if it was such an open and shut case.

 

That doesn't matter. Why would you simply assume that Douglas was coherent enough to know where the count was? He got ****ing ripped by Iron Mike Tyson, and he was certainly hurt. 10 seconds is 10 seconds thats the rule thats the law and the ref gave him over 12 seconds to get back on his feet. BAD RULING PERIOD :deal

Just to add to this, After all this TIME, people still give a **** about Meldrick Taylor getting his bout with Chavez stopped in the 12th round, He was ****ed up and he got up before the 10 count, he was more hurt than Douglas was yet he got up but people still get pissed that the fight was stopped.

Whats the difference between this? Its the same **** just on the other end of the equation Douglas wasn't even up, regardless of how hurt he was the guy got up on his feet at about 12 seconds. If you aren't on your feet at 10 seconds then you're out. Why does this rule hold up in every scrub and exibition match in the world but when it came down to a mike tyson fight the ref ****s it up. It was a garbage call and thats all there is to it. Both fighters faught a war and Mike Tyson gave 100% of his will when he knocked Douglas down and in my opinion OUT. But the ref ****ed it up, gave Douglas a second chance and we saw what the outcome was.

 

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I'm not assuming it, I'm offering my opinion. I can't prove definitively that Douglas would have gotten up if the ref's count had been correct any more than you can prove that he wouldn't have.
All I'm saying is that since he only had the ref inside the ring to listen to i think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

And if there is a rule that the ringsides official's count overrules the ref inside the ring (which someone can cite if they'd like), then I think it's a stupid rule, only because it then demands that a fighter be more attuned to whats going on outside the ring than even the referee is.

Has anyone ever seen a fight overturned because the official outside the ring reached 10 while the official inside the ring didn't? Was the fight stopped on the spot or overturned later?

 

I completely agree. But it should have been that refs ASS for completely ****ing up that count. None of it was Douglas fault he was paying attention to the inside ring. But the ref gave him a very very nice long count.

 

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no he shouldn't, He only has to look at the ref inside the ring thats the only count he has to pay attention to. Its not Douglas' fault that the inside ref ****ed everything up. With all the noise and chaos PLUS his head probably throbbing from a Mike Tyson punch, there is no way he could look to the outside ref and see what the real count was. He only has to deal with the ref inside.

 

And with that in mind, should the fight have been overturned in Tyson's favour because of the ref's screw up? I say no.

 

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