Mike Tyson vs. David Tua.

Funny how you conveniently skip out points that you stated as facts such as the Foreman fight was after the Ruddock fight when it was the opposite, I proved you wrong yet again.

 

Tyson was accused of ducking Ruddock since '89, Holyfield fought Foreman in '91, Holyfield had ample time to face Ruddock.

 

And? hows that going to help Tua when Tyson pushes his sh** in for him?

 

Me thinks your one of those nuthuggers that listens and takes all these bull**** excuses as gospel, you reel off all the same lines like all Tyson fanatics without doing research yourself. The holes in your stories and misinformation seem to prove this.

 

Did you or did you not state that the Ruddock fight was after the Foreman fight??

Like I said why would Holyfield want to fight someone who'd just been beat by Tyson when he could fight the undefeated Bowe??

 

Tyson/Ruddock March 18th 1991
Holyfield/Foreman April 19th 1991

It was a total of one month

 

Buhahahahaha!

According to you David Tua is better than Tyson (see previous thread)
When asked to name Tuas accomplishments or his top ten victories, you tucked your tail and ran, depsite me asking you numerous times for an answer

You claim Tyson NEVER hurt Holyfield, but fail to acknowledge the first punch Tyson threw in their first bout, then you claim this was merely a slip by Holyfield, when its clear as day Holyfield was rocked and Holyfield himself has admitted this

You provided me a list of people Tyson 'struggled' with, despite the fact that he beat 95% of them. You were unable to clarify any further what these 'struggles' were. And when asked to show where Tyson 'struggled' you tucked your tail and ran

You claim Lewis hit Tua with a ton of right hands and Tua didnt go down, but Tyson did. Its clear as day you havent watched the fight. Lewis hardly hit Tua with anything, hes just jabbed and moved and totally outboxed and throughly humiliated Tua.

Tyson actually made a fight out of it. Vitali only went 6 rounds with Lewis, does that mean Tuas performance was better than Vitalis too?

You really are full of sh** :hi:

 

So you were wrong yet again boy by one month, you're making a habit of being wrong aren't you??

Show me once where I said Tua was better than Tyson because you're lying and getting things wrong again, it seems you're easily confused a lately.

I'll say it again Holyfield was never hurt once in either fight and show me a link where Holyfield says this or else it'll be another one of your little fantasies that appear often in your world.

Lewis did hit Tua with plenty of right hands but he takes a better punch than Tyson who was laid out by Lewis.

Tyson made a fight out of it??:rofl the ***** was crying over cut eyes and wanted to quit, I bet Miss Washington put up a better fight than Michelle did against Lewis.

Go masturbate over your mythical hero boy!

 

You are desperately trying to make a logical stretch that Tua couldn't take Tyson's punches. Most of what you posted is irrelevant to the subject. In reality there is nothing out there to suggest that Tua couldn't take Tyson's blows.
They both had granite chins and could take a great shot. It's going the full 12 rounds and Tua has better stamina and late fight knockout power than Tyson. Tyson would have to dig deep and use his superior boxing skills to win this fight and try and get a decision.

If it's a fantasy match between late 80's Tyson and late 90's Tua then I believe Tyson would win by a clear but competitive UD.

If the had fought when they conceivably could have fought sometime between 1999-2003 I believe Tua would have beaten Tyson by UD or late stoppage.

 

the point im trying to make is Tyson could crack Tuas chin, Tyson stopped guys that had never been stopped before
he stopped guys quicker than Bowe, Holyfield and Foreman amongst others

Tyson power is equal to Lewis, if Tua shut up shop after taking a right hand from Lewis, hes going to be in a world of pain against Tyson

 

If Tyson was knocked out by the feather fisted Douglas he's getting put to sleep by Tua if he ever lands a hard shot on him. Tyson would have to defeat Tua by points because he's not knocking him out.

 

The problem with your argument is you are comparing the performances of other fighters like what Bowe did compared to Tyson in order to somehow come to the roundabout conclusion that Tyson punched harder than Tua which really doesn't make sense.

If you want to compare chins then look at direct comparision of Tyson vs Lewis to Tua vs Lewis. Tyson got KO'd in 8 and Tua went the distance. Or even the fact that Tyson got stopped by Holyfield who wasn't a big puncher at heavyweight.

It's really impossible to judge who was the bigger puncher between Tua and Tyson. It's quite clear that they both had the ability to knock grown men out with one punch.

It's very obvious that Tua had the superior stamina and late power than Tyson.

"Tyson power is equal to Lewis" I don't agree. Tyson was the better combination puncher and was quicker but in terms of pure KO power with one punch I would say Lewis hit harder.
Lewis beat Tua mostly with his great boxing acumen and keeping Tua off with with his long left jab.

Tyson doesn't fight like that. In a fantasy prime match it would be a war of attrition with both men fighting chest to chest at close range, Tyson is not knocking Tua out and we know Tua has the superior stamina and late power so Tyson would need to establish an early points lead and hang on to get the UD

If they fight 1999-2003 it would be a similar fight but Tyson does not have the stamina to get in a tough dog fight with Tua. In this scenario I see Tua coming on strong in the 10th or 11th round and finishing Tyson off.

 

C'mon guys be fair now.

If you testicles were hooked up to a device that caused debilitating pain b ut no permanent demage for an hour when you made a clearly innacurate & biased statement, would you write things like "Douglas is featherfisted"? Not being amongst teh hardest hitters ever does not mean he couyld not crack.

Also is it fair to use this fight as an example of what would happen peak? No, pek does not mean just wehn guys SHOULD be physical peak, it means best vs. best.

I would say Tua hits harder than Tyson for one shot. Tyson was significantly better.
Tyson had pretty good staying power at his peak, but Tua gets the endurance/late fight edge.

I have thought of Lewis & Tyson with similar 1 punch power.
It is possible that Lewis hit harder with a single shot, more like Tua.

Also a ball-zapper-statement is to use shot Tyson vs. Lewis as a prime example, OR to say that Tua did not get KOed. Yes he also likely had a bit better chin, but as you know he was not TESTED much in that fight, Lewis was very cautious, & hit him with nothing like the power shots Tyson sucked up for 8 rounds. Tua did not want to engage, & if in part due to his serratus muscle injury, should have post-poned the fight.

I am just tired of guys always saying whatever might help "their" side, regardless of whether it is fair & balanced & proves their point logically.

You might even be RIGHT about what you claim, but it is folly & undermines all credibility to not exercises fairness & intellectual rigor & considering if what you mouth PROVES anything.

Also the insults & personal denigration gets tiresome. And usually is not bespeaking mutual respect & ball busting only. It becomes a mud fest damaging credibility.

Thank you for listening.

 

go to the ****ing bed ****ing troll

 

the only way that i can see tyson winning is by decision, forget a ko in favour of tyson. stylistically tua got advantage vs tyson, he was bigger( I AM WAITING FOR A ****ING IDIOT MENTIONING REACH OR HEIGHT LIKE PROOFS OF SIZE) ,stronger, hits harder,HE GOT a better chin, HE HAD MORE STAMINA, HE PROVED MORE HEART, TUA DID CARRY HIS FULL POWER THE FULL FIGHT, TYSON DID NOT.. tyson was more skilled, faster, better combination puncher, he had better defence and he was more accurate puncher, but stytistically it would have been an inside fight , and this one was the favourite place of tua.