Mike Tyson vs George Foreman (1991)

Cus never even said that.

 

This really is laughable Tyson would eat him up Tyson is NO Michael Moorer.

 

Its all Holyfields fault. He should have fought the worlds most dangerous contender (Ruddock) rather than an old grandad who hadnt proven much until then

This would have left Tyson without a dance partner, and Foreman most likely would have stepped in

King put Tyson/Foreman on the same card against Stewart/Rodriguez, my guess is this was to create interest in a match down the line.

 

Yes, Foreman was the strongest.

Foreman held fighters out and pushed them back or down, he didn't "tie up" his opponents.

I think prime Ruddock was better than old Foreman.

 

Not sure what you guys mean by Old George not "tying up" his opponents. He was actually better at doing that then most men around at the time and would even give them a nice little gut check in the clinches. His defense was also infinitely better than Razer Ruddock and unlike Donoven, hit hard with both hands. Claiming that Tyson would kill Foreman on the basis of comparing their results against Alex Stewart doesn't make much sense to me. For one thing, Stewart was a noticeably improved fighter in 1992 than he was in 1990. For another, he fought Foreman in a totally dissimilar manner than Tyson would. We can also turn around and say that a 43 year old Foreman faired better against a prime Holyfield than Tyson did against a faded one.

 

I didn't mean Foreman wouldn't hold if he needed to, but he wasn't in the habit or hugging and smothering just for the sake of stalling an attack. He didn't need to because he was strong and roughhouse enough to stop them with his arms and push them back. He put his forearms against their shoulders and moved them.
Tyson was quick but he wasn't no Willie Pep, he's there in front of you, down there, coming at you.

I'm surprised people don't see the stylistic challenge Foreman would pose Tyson.
EVERYONE had to fight Foreman on the backfoot much of the time. His physical presence and strength demanded it.

I totally understand the Tyson speed factor, and it might well be enough to do Foreman in. It's hard to imagine though.

 

oh I agree. Anyone who thinks that Tyson would have walked in against Foreman in 1991 and walked out without working up a sweat needs to go back and study both of them at the time. Tyson isn't just going to casually bob and weave and dodge all of Foreman's punches while landing at will. He's going to have to get close to George. He will be subjected to getting tied up on the inside, pushed back into mid range, taking overhand rights and uppercuts, all of which had force behind them.. I'll Pick Tyson to either pull out a decision or late stoppage. But when this very same thread was done in the past, placing a 90's Foreman in with a 90's Tyson, some predicted it to pan out like the Frank Bruno fight......Not gonna happen.

 

Yeah, people who make a comparison between Foreman and Bruno in regards to this match are selling Foreman short.

 

Foreman fought 25 fights, approx 80 rounds in the 4 years prior to facing Holyfield

Tyson had fought about 8 rounds in 5 years.

But i wont go into that, i think we debated this on a previous thread :good

 

But there are two sides to that coin. The Holyfield who Foreman fought was about 15 years younger than Foreman, where as the one Tyson fought was 4 years older than himself. The Evander of 1991 was a defending reigning champion coming off some of his better wins. The one Tyson fought had only seen 1 fight in the past year, a bad beating from Riddick Bowe, and had on and off health issues.

Gotta look at all sides of the picture.

 

but then we have to take into account the holy Tyson fought was bigger, strong and possibly on some sort of peds. But that's a whole seperate topic.

 

i didnt even know tyson fought ruddock

 

If we're honest, I think Evander juiced his entire heavyweight career.. In April of 1988 against Carlos Deleon, he weighed 190. Eight months later against Pinklon Thomas he was 210, and not one ounce of him appeared to be fat. Its virtually impossible to put on 20 lbs of PURE muscle in half a year's time unless your getting assistance from something other than protein and weight training.

 

I see Tyson pummeling Foreman to a wide decision. Mike turns George's face into a swollen mask a la Foreman-Stewart.

 

cus, did show mike films off frazier- foreman, and warned him swarmers would not beat his style.