Mike Tyson vs George Foreman (1991)

He was old against Lewis, but i know he trained hard. Tyson KNEW that an ass whooping was coming, so he prepared for it as best he could.

I've never come across that? i know in the Toback film Tyson admits he hadnt trained hard for 3-4 fights before Douglas, which to me makes sense.

Spinks, didnt last very long so we didnt get to see if there was any change in Tyson. Against Bruno it was obvious Tyson was rusty (his longest layoff of 8-9 months, since turning pro), i think Tyson looked **** against Williams as well, he was getting hit by jabs, yes it was an impressive KO, but he still looked ****.

Tyson looked very sharp against Tubbs and its one of my favourite performances. I love the way how Tubbs was so into the fight in the first round and how Tyson quickly turns that round in the second round and ends it quickly. This fight to me shows how Tyson would have dealt with someone like James Toney (who some believe would pose a big threat to Tyson).
I dont buy that he wasnt in shape for Tucker/Ribalta. Both of these fights, esp Ribalta Tyson looked and fought like a supremely conditioned athlete. There were times when Tyson used to skip town to hang out with homies and get away from the pressures of fighting, but Rooney would always drag him back into the gym. Once Rooney was gone, there was no one to drag Tyson back

I guess im looking at it from a physical appearance point of view, when someone is TOO chiseled then theres question marks about PEDS.

Botha a juicer? god knows how it benefitted him!!!!!!!

As for Freddie Roach...if he knew James Toney was juicing and did nothing, then maybe that raises some questions about the whole Mayweather-Pacman issue. Maybe Mayweather is right when he says Pacqiauo needs to take the tests. Funnily enough, Roger Mayweather made the claim that pacqiauo was on something and that was after the Cotto fight....according to most, Pacqiauos last great performance and hes looked like **** ever since.

 

Again, this probably would look like Round 7 of the Holyfield fight. Tyson would get caught and maybe shook up a few times coming in by a clubbing shot, but once he's range, he's going to be bombing Foreman with lefts and rights like that. Holyfield got something like 19 unanswered power shots on Foreman in one sequence, he was just too slow to even catch him and tie him up while he throwing combos. Foreman protects his chin but his eyes and head are going to take a beating. Tyson eventually stops him on his feet I reckon.

 

I cant see anyone taking 14 unanswered punches from Tyson and surviving.

I know Thomas took quite a few as did Bruno, but that was the coupe de grace

Foreman will get stopped on his feet i believe.

 

That was one of hte few times Evander really opened up on Foreman and looked to brawl, of course he punched himself out.

But I didn't see Foreman just throwing Evander off or clinching. He was too slow to catch him, he just went to his cross armed shell and toughed it out, guarding his chin but eating punishment all over his head. Tyson would be mixing in uppercuts, body shots, and overall just throwing faster/harder punches in such a sequence.

 

It is an interesting fight though....could Tyson possibly punch himself out?

I think thats what Foreman would bank on, he would try his own rope a dope and hope Tyson tires late on in the fight. But its a risky gameplan, because Foreman could easily get ****ed up big time.

If Tyson does his homework and prepares well for Foreman, he will stop Foreman somewhere in the middle to late rounds.

The only way Foreman wins this somewhere late in the fight, a bruised/battered Foreman catches Tyson coming in with a big shot and finishes him.

This fight is Tysons to lose, i know Foreman will definitely not take it lightly and would harder than ever

The Tyson of 85-88? He knocks Foreman unconsious and i meant flat out knocked the **** out.

 

Difference with Holyfield, he bounced around Foreman enough to make it less than suicidal. He didn't just wade in and tee off with a 14-punch barrage at the opening bell.
And people say Holyfield brawled with Foreman a bit too much. But he'd be zig-zagging out now and then.
But Tyson would be far more direct, that was his style. He never showed any boxing off the back foot. Against Foreman you have to be able to do that, or it's going to be a real tough night.

 

I dont think Tyson could afford to fight off the backfoot, not with his height and reach.

But Tyson had the chin, power, aggression and speed to take it to Foreman

the last guy who really took it to Foreman was Ron Lyle and Ron Lyle aint no Mike Tyson.

What id be interested to see would be how Foreman reacts to Tysons body shots, im not sure if anyone ever worked Foremans body.

At the time in 91 Ruddock was a very good win for Tyson, but looking back in hindsight, maybe Foreman might have been the better win?????

 

Tyson didn't need a back foot, even in 91 he had better defense on the charge than Evander. He was still capable of slipping someone as slow as Old George on his way inside. Foreman hit hard but it would be just too much pressure, Tyson never just waded inside until circa Botha, unless it was like against Biggs whom he had zero respect for their power.

 

Hell no. Tyson would never knock Foreman flat out. No way.

 

In 1985 when he was 18 years old with a dozen fights and a recent loss to Henry Tillman in the olympic trials? No...

 

Can't believe this has become a serious debate your supposed to be experts Foreman aint got a chance in this fight don't you remember Foreman was seen as a joke back then no-one would have ever picked Foreman in a million years TYSON ISN'T MICHAEL MOORER.

 

No one picked Buster Douglas to beat Tyson and No one picked Foreman to take Holy the distance or to become lineal champ again at age 45. Styles make fights, and while I think a 1991 Mike Tyson would have beaten a 1991 Foreman, I have serious doubts about it being a walk in the park for Mike.

 

Foreman fought nothing like Douglas you think a slow, ponderous plodding Foreman is a style problem for Tyson? Not a chance Tyson is too elusive Foreman wouldn't land a glove on him if he did he'd take it and come back with 5 more Moorer won every round in that fight all he had to do was move but he stood there and got caught there's no chance that happens to Tyson its just so easy to see what would happen there.

 

LOL @ calling a 1991 Tyson "elusive"

 

The key to beating Tyson is a jab. Foreman has one of the hardest jabs in HW history.