Mike Tyson vs George Foreman (1991)

Neither of those guys stood toe toe. They both moved side to side and gave ground. Morrison even turned his back and vacated the area. Tyson's ego wouldn't allow him to do that and he probably couldn't do it anyway.

A flawed comparison.

 

I just finished watching Foreman-Morrison and, wow, George made Tommy look like a world beater in there. It's no coincidence that i his very next fight Morrison crash lands in one minute against Bentt, who fortunately enough was able to to do in that one minute what Foreman couldn't do in 36!

Tommy picked his spots. There were many times where he stood toe to toe and came out of it better. MANY times. Flawed comparison it is not. So Tyson is going to have less success agaisnt Foreman than Morrison would? What the fvck is going on here?

 

And why wouldn't it in this scenario? It's 1991. Tyson is certainly in a different league than Stewart and Morrison, offensively, defensively, stamina and ring I.Q. Certainly a better record than those two against top level competition. It's not like Stewart or Morrison completely changed their style against Foreman. They stayed in the pocket to land their bombs. Foreman couldn't hurt Morrison in that fight if he tried. Besides the 7th did anyone give Foreman another round in the fight? You don't think Tyson has the ability to land at will? He's a superior fighter than either of the guys that pounded Foreman silly. And he wouldn't have to change his style to do it.

 

Morrison and Stewart fought for the most part on the back foot. Morrison was straight out walking away in almost every round, and running away even at times. Stewart was suitable cautious from the opening bell.
Foreman sucked in the Morrison fight. In 1991 he looked better than that to me. Then again, after what Holyfield and especially Stewart did to him, he's bound to have diminished a bit.

 

If I'm totally honest, watching that Morrison-Foreman fight, it looks like Foreman's really not trying. Other people have said similar things. Michael Bentt called it a fix, which doesn't prove anything, seeing as fighters say all sorts of BS to their opponents. But still, Foreman was terribly lacklustre, letting Morrison off all the time. At least against Axel Schulz I can see that Schulz was pissing him off. And Schulz did actually beat him. Against Morrison, Foreman's effort was awful.

 

Agreed,

Morrison fought a totally different type of fight from his usual approach and stayed well out of reach against Foreman, as did Alex Stewart, who incidentally was in better shape and more experienced for that fight then in his previous outings with Holy, moorer, and Tyson. These fights also happened in 92' and 93', not in 91'.

 

Hmmm, interesting. Who else did you hear this from? It's possible. Maybe he thought Morrison's chin wouldn't hold up to his power and neglected to train diligently?

 

After Douglas the Tyson mystike had faded some guys were less reluctant to attack him after that also Ruddock was one of the toughest oponnents Tyson had fought to that point and he came to fight Tyson stays right on the chest of every oponnent naturally he is going to get caught with some good punches from good fighters but Tyson won clearly evaded most of the punches showed he could win a battle of attrition the perfromances impressed me he could have slipped every punch if he wanted he obviously didn't feel the need to its only a reflection of his training habits he still had the defensive first posture inside.

 

**** that was bad punctuation.

 

Thats exactly what could have cost him against Foreman, you dont want a battle of atrition against George Foreman, young or old

 

But Old Foreman over Tyson, even in '91? Winning a battle of attrition? For real?

 

Think for a moment.........speed kills........Tyson had still extremely fast hands, good reflexes and awesome counterpunching abilities, he got lazy in his defense but his chin made up for it.

Foreman was soooooo slow in his comeback, he would eat some serious leather aand his cross defense will not allow him to counter effectively.

Will he land some shots, sure, but I bet my bottom dollar that he did not hit harder than Ruddock.............and we all know that George would never ever get in the Ring with Razor.

Tyson is faster of foot and hand than Holy and has way more power.....what other opponent besides Foreman and Cooper has Holy been able to tee off ten, fifteen punch combos ? Tyson is going to do the same and any sane man who knows Tyson power and speed that if you take 5 or 10 flush combo shots you are D-O-N-E, no matter how granite your chin is.

Tyson in his hey days was asked in a press conference about a Foreman match, he replied with his customary lisp...." I do him a favor and kill that fat guy but seriously you guys would cruzifiy me if I fight that old fossil".....Tyson always had a large jounalistic audience at that time and not ONE argued otherwise.

 

I just have a funny feeling that Foreman may have a trick up his sleeve and anything can happen in the later rounds.

If Tyson fights a disciplined fight he can get Foreman out of there, but by engaging recklessly hes falling into Foremans trap.

All depends which Tyson shows up

 

You dont want to resort to relying on your chin against a guy like Foreman, id rather not be hit at all.

Im not disputing any of it, Tyson can and will pummel Foreman but he needs to put on a display like never before against a very dangerous puncher with a huge size advantage.

It all depends on how Foreman reacts to Tysons punches, i dont think Foreman fought anyone that punched like Tyson did.

Another thing to note is during Lewis/Tyson, Foreman was commentating and he made 2 very interesting comments mid fight, he said 'You have to pushed Tyson back' 'and you have to hit Tyson with those uppercuts'

Both of these were Georges speciality, stylewise George would have had the right gameplan for Tyson, but everyone has a plan until they get.

I agree with Unforgiven for his post earlier.

2 things happen, a) Tyson stops Foreman on his feet after a barrage of unasnwered punches b) Foreman stops Tyson after taking a long pummeling and coming from behind in the later rounds with a tiring Tyson

 

I think Tyson would try to stop Foreman early and his speed would be a big factor in the first 4 rounds. Foreman would have some marks on his face and some swelling but he remains upright. Tyson slows the pace by round 5 and gets a little frustrated that Foreman is still coming forward. Rounds 6-9 are close but Foreman isn't landing his big punches flush. Foreman's head is starting to look like it did vs. Stewart by round 10 and Tyson is up 6 rounds to 4. Tyson actually turns boxer in this fight and surprises some people. He uses his speed and mobility to stick and move on Foreman. Tyson wins 7 rounds to 5 and is exhausted at the end of the fight, & down the track gets blasted for taking the fight in the first place