Mike Tyson Vs. George Foreman

Tyson stops foreman in 3

 

I wouldn't.

 

In a lion vs. tiger fight, the beast that can mortally wound the other first wins.

Tyson had the upper body movement, versatile repertoire and speed to devastatingly counter the clumsy, slow, wide-open Foreman early on and make it stick.

I see Tyson getting to Foreman first, hurting him and closing the show before Foreman can impose his clubbing style.

In their respective title challenges, Tyson is perfectly composed and effective against an unafraid Berbick, immediately seizing the reins of the fight. In the first minute in Jamaica, Foreman against Frazier looks scared, shaky and vulnerable. It's just that Frazier had nothing to bother Foreman with but that predictable left hook that would connect once and never again. Foreman quickly learned he could uppercut "here's-my-chin" Frazier to death, but Tyson would not pose but counter with the left hook, overhand right and uppercut up the middle.

Foreman's power required a stationary target, which Tyson was not. Tyson's arsenal only needs a counter opening which Foreman would offer in abundance.

And Foreman had a chin (as did Tyson), but Tyson's repetitively swift powerpunches brought down many strong men early, with astonishing efficiency, and this is what I see happening to Foreman.

 

Well, then at least I can still hear the commentary of the fights that I'm actually paying attention to, before I spew verbal vomit on a chat forum.

 

Your insane, or blind or both. This my last repsonse to any post of yours. I don't know what bizzarro world your living in , but your welcome to it.

 

Tyson did not fight well going backwards and Foreman would've backed him up. Foreman would take Tyson out. A 42 year old Foreman went the distance with a younger version of Holyfield. An older version of Holyfield decked Mike on the canvas in round six and later stopped him in round 11.

 

That was actually more of a slip in round 6, but whatever.

As I said , i think even if Foreman wins this fight, he's going to get beat up pretty bad. Mike's speed and excellcent combinations would wear him down badly, especially in the first couple rounds. If Foreman's chin held up, he could possibly start turning the fight around. Either way, George is gonna take a beating win or lose.

 

It works both ways. Foreman struggled to beat Alex Stewart via 10 round decision and got his face smashed in in the process. Tyson utterly destroyed Stewart inside of a round.

 

Stewart gave Holyfield two tough fights. Foreman almost had Steward out in the second. Tyson would not have the lateral movement of Steward. Tyson is great when he is coming forward bobbing and weaving but when he gets backed up like he did against Holyfield he is not great. That is why George would beat him. He'd have Mike on his heels.

 

He didn't get backed up against Holyfield. He got butted and outboxed, and then tired.

 

Wrong.

Holyfield's whole plan revolved around two things: Move him backwards, and counter him with mirror-image shots. Tyson getting butted by Holyfield is not accurate. Watch the film again. Tyson rushes in and Holyfield does what any fighter is trained to do, get into a small package and dip inside the incoming shot. Tyson rammed his own head into Holyfield's head. It was his own damn fault. Holyfield got comfortable using his head later, but in this bout it was Tyson who was rushing straight in like it was a street fight.

 

That is precisely the reason why Tyson would, outside of a puncher's chance, always lose against Foreman.

The detractors here are hung up on Foreman's technical deficiencies and are dismissing the immense physical size and strength of Foreman -not to mention that wrecking ball power. Hell, those technical deficiencies may play in his favor against the machine-like Mike.*

Foreman could throw from long range and the shots were devestating -straight rights, and yes, a serious jab that went through you. When Tyson closes the distance, and he will, Foreman could spin him by taking his shoulders and pushing him sideways like he did on Frazier. Or he would spread his legs, tag him on the corners with hooks to the ribs and push him off the shoulders off balance. Then he'd tee off.

Tyson will land, but Foreman would either turn with the shot or take it. Tyson's problem is that he will be in there with a man who had no fear of him and who is stronger than him, hits harder than him, and takes monster shots.

*Foreman was also awkward... that changes the equations that Mike was trained to solve with all of those drills. Tyson was a machine -he was trained in a Pavlovian manner: if A, then throw 1,5,7. If B, then throw 3,5,7,3, etc. The problem here is that Foreman's style was built around power and disdain. He fought in his own way. He was awkward and would make it hard for Tyson to figure out how to respond. Foreman looped shots, threw relatively rare right hooks, and such. Bonecrusher fought awkwardly against Mike and there was some confusion about how to respond. When Smith held on, Mike just relaxed. Smith was also able to shove Tyson 4 feet backwards when he felt like it.

Foreman would have the size and style that would be reminiscent of Smith, but with greater strength and with an eye on throwing "kill you" shots, whereas Smith was throwing "get off me" shots while turning his head in anticipation of incoming shots. Foreman would never be so timid. And he's gonna catch Tyson.

Frankly, I think it's just nutty to think that Tyson will be able to implement what he needs to in order to survive, never mind win.

 

Foreman was the better fighter though.

 

That's all you got?

Foreman is over 6'3 and is built like a fortress. His reach is almost a foot longer than Tyson's. Are you kidding me?

Tell me you won't argue about who'd be the stronger man in there.

 

... and if you are going to engage in a debate, then address the points made -don't allow yourself to be reduced to heckling.