Mike Tyson Vs. George Foreman

Quitter. :hey

 

The comparison was a little lame. Not even ballpark.

But, tell me when George fought any other time under the same oppressive conditions. Let alone vs the class of a fired up Ali. Didn't happen.

I'll also let you in on a secret. A VERY prominent authority stated that in training for Ali all George wanted to do was chop wood and hit the heavy bag. This authority said that tho his punches got to the point where they were almost bursting the bag (and the sound apparently was awe inspiring) they were never going to hit an Ali. His punches got harder, but also slower and wider. There was a bit of dissention in the Foreman camp they say. Such a training regimen, allied to George's average stamina, the heat and humidity, and Ali's class, spelt D-O-O-M.

 

Conditions, exhaustion, and other factors like taking punches are all part of the game. It would be great if everyone's chin was judged on a particular night when air conditioning and slow paced fights were the only factors taking in the equation.

Foreman's chin aint up for debate in Zaire it seems.

 

JT. Talking about Ali v Foreman. What do you think about this recent nonsense coming out through the press that George was drugged before the fight?.

Maybe thats another point you could use to go along with heat and exhaustion. I'm pretty sure a large gust of wind from the South Atlantic Ocean was sweeping across the Congo around the same time as the 8th round. If you watch the youtube video a few hats are being blown of peoples heads in the crowd. What i will concede however, being drugged certainly ain't part of the game.

 

Hahahaha, i'm not that desperate Robbi. I think George is fulla **** on this one. However the severe heat and humidity is factual. As is Ali's undeniable greatness. As is the the steel in George's chin.

 

thanks stone hands!!!!

 

The severe heat and humidity is factual. Ali's undeniable greatness comes under the same context, however the steel of Foreman's chin turned to copper in Zaire. Not quite plastic or balsa wood, but copper.

Exhaustion being part of the game is factual as well. And when matches are staged outdoors, expect all kinds of weather. Factual. Humidity obviously plays a part in fighters becoming tired sooner rather than later, but I'm not one for excuses. Especially after a fighter gets smacked with a four punch combination and doesn't rise from the canvas.

If Ali and Foreman fought indoors at the Mandalay Bay and the same result happened, would you concede the Mummys chin let him down?.

 

How would you describe Ali's chin?

 

Throughout his career he showed a great chin. He was never knocked out. Every time he hit the canavas, he got back up to resume combat. Three times out of four he got up to win inside the distance. Banks, Cooper, and Wepner. Combine that with taking the bombs of Foreman, Shavers and Norton, and you have chin worthy of praise.

 

His chin wasn't steel the night of the Cooper fight, he didn't know where he was. He was certainly more separated from his senses than Foreman was (who was clearly looking towards his corner and he/they mis-timed the count). Clay was badly stunned vs Cooper, the bell gave him 70 seconds rest and he got up of his stool at one stage, to put a bit of life back into his legs no doubt. Dundee pushes him down onto his stool as if to say 'the round's only just ended'.

 

I agree with both Cus and Mike Tyson and (John Thomas). Tyson can swarm all he wants, Foreman will push his 218 lbs butt back to arms length and knock him out exactly one round after Tyson realises he's going to lose.

 

And Dundee tore part of his glove to get more time. Even though Ali got up reasonably fast, he was on ***** street for sure. Sweeping left hook clean as a whistle. Dundee also broke open an ammonia capsule to try and bring Ali around again. If you watch the video, you can clearly see Ali come to life again after Dundee held it under his nose. His eyes went from from being glared to alert within seconds.

Being seperated from your senses is one thing, getting up and coming back to win is another. Getting up and coming back to win does as well as it possibly can when papering over the cracks.

 

Foreman - Lyle, minus the exhaustion

 

That would have been some fight. Possibily a 15 rounder with Foreman taking everything Lyle threw at him, depending how Lyle's chin held up of course it would be a bomb for bomb fest over the distance. I'm pretty sure Foreman's chin was as solid as the rock of gibraltar that night as well, although his chin never let him down it was exhaustion and the humidity.

 

ali took a good shot.i remember watching the shavers fight.earnie hit him with a right hand flush on the jaw,spun his head 90 degrees.alis' legs buckled slightly then he moved out of range.yeah,i would say he took a good shot.