Mike Tyson vs Joe Frazier

Best analysis I've seen on this thread---agree with this assessment 100%!!

 

Frazier would win imo. Tyson caries more weight naturally has a speed and power advantage plus can punch with both hands. Tyson has great advantages to win the fight. But I think Frazier is to durable with to much heart to knock out would weather the storm and stop Tyson late.

Frazier and Marciano are the only fighters that can weather the early storm survive and then knock him out imo. Ali, Tyson Fury and Vitali Klitschko the only other fighters that can beat Tyson do it in different fashion.

 

oscar shown dropping joe by sudden counters hurts him bad joe has no chance here needs rounds to be in his mode and has no way to stop from being hit

anybody who seen mike vs son knows that showed to that joe outdated style would be doom with Mike

 

George couldn't intimidate Joe (watch the staredown), so you better believe Mike wouldn't. Mike also wouldn't be able to bully Joe like Foreman did, though he quite likely will drop him in the opening rounds.

I think Mike would get negatively effected watching Joe come back off the canvas, clapping his gloves together.

Tyson wins the first four rounds, then starts eating the hook more and and more. By the tenth the former is getting knocked around and initiating clinches again and again. Mike goes down in the 11th, gets up groggily, and the ref stops it as he gets smacked all over the ring.

 

I used to think that Tyson would be to quick and to fast for Frazier, but my thinking in this matchup changed over the course of years.

My thinking now is that if Frazier could weather the early storm of the first couple of rounds, and I hae no reason to believe he could'nt, then it would be mostly Frazier from that point on.

The problem I see for Tyson is that he cant really fight going backwards, and Frazier is'nt taking a backward step either.
What does that leave???
It leaves us with the fight being fought mostly at close quarters. Mike Tyson is barely average at that range. Tyson is not a good infighter.
Once the fight goes past the first few rounds, the pace would slow to a steady pace, and thats where Smok'in Joe carves up Tyson, he would just devour him, eat him alive on the inside. Mike Tyson's defense at close quarters is'nt even good, Evander Holyfield toyed with Tyson up close.

Dont get me wrong, a fit Tyson is going to bring it no matter what, so it would be very competitive, but I just see Frazier getting comfortable on the inside and just handling Tyson on his way to a late stoppage or competive but clear decision.

Frazier is just to tough, I dont see him getting blasted out of there by a fighter his size.

 

well this is wrong you should have kept the same thought you had years ago cause it was right oscar shown joe could be hurt real early from counter punches and joe has no way to stop mike hitting him

simple as that wont be any coming back joe gets destroyed his transformation takes to long for mike to just let him do that joe loses fast

I picture joe getting dropped by a strong counter joe gets up

2nd drop he struggles to get up

3rd he struggles makes the count but is stopped to save him

or 1st drop he struggles like oscar did him
2nd drop he is done from combos doing damage

this odd making joe coming back when he couldnt is not realistic with Mike never has been

the joe you picture beating Mike is for the outta shape ver 90s

 

His whole life is defending Mike Tyson lol. I can't count how many times this clown reopened years-old threads just to make sure everyone knew he was Mike's biggest fan.

Mike Tyson was a very great fighter. He wasn't invincible. No fighter was.

 

Tyson beats Frazier ... Too much overall for him ... Prime Tyson isn't going to lose to someone smaller than him ... Frazier has a lot of heart and a great left hook but Tyson has power in both hands, an iron cast chin, and a massive speed and technique advantage

 

yea right I never got that odd quote of joe will come back how when he was known to be real easy to hit in early rounds and has no way to keep mike off of him

I gave breakdown uptop which is the only way it would go

 

He's going to get TKOed ... Prime Tyson had decent stamina ... He didn't gas so easily like some imply ... In all of his longer fights his intensity is still decent towards the latter rounds ... Yes he does slow down after round 4 or so but still he is conditioned to last 12 rounds

Assuming Frazier makes it to these rounds

 

Tyson's trunks and whole wardrobe would be outdated. Joe had style with the bright green or pink trunk. Those 1922 Jack Dempsey trunks could probably move on their own. They'll never survive the catwalk.

 

Tyson pretty early. Fast starter, slow starter and a crazy good overpowering two handed attack against a guy that doesn't take a backward step. Tyson's uppercut is also one of the great punches. At his best he's too much here IMO.

 

Reach will not be a factor in this shoot out, both men will be walking into range and firing.
Tyson took shots from Ruddock,and Bruno and remained up right , Frazier would have gone down.Tyson faced quite a few bangers Frazier did not. Tyson had size, two fisted power, a speed advantage, and a better chin.He minces Frazier as he would Marciano 5/6 rds at most.Tyson was only stopped after cumulative punishment ,Frazier was on the floor from every punch George threw and he was fresh!

 

I give joe no chance with a mike in shape now a felloff mike yea joe can beat that ver

 

yea facts half way I say that cause mike wasnt a constant walking forward he was patient and a heavy counterpuncher he waits then counters

joe shown with oscar who almost kept him down the first clean drop from a counter that joe was weak to hard shots and has no way to stop mutiple hard shots from hitting him from great angles

it's odd to give joe a chance with the best mike always has been