Mike Tyson VS Joe Frazier

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  1. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    First thing is very dumb said that Tyson would stop Frazier early!He is not strong puncher in category of Foreman,even old Foreman punched harder!Second thing Tyson is not durable,his chin was not iron as you(his fan) described it!He was knocked by many:Douglas,Holyfield,Lewis,Williams,McBride..his chin was not good and not iron as Foreman or Ali!I think his chin is not even in Frazier category who had ATG chin!
    His KOs of Berbick were not special because Berbick was not known as good puncher and durable guy!Berbick was beaten many times and was beaten by low energy Larry Holmes in a street fight!Berbick was beaten by green Buster Douglas!
    Tyson KO of Holmes also could not convince me of his power because Holmes was coming from 2 years layoff,did not train and was very sick!Sure he later gave Holyfield good fight but he was atleast prepared,in shape and had couple fights prior that, while he faced Tyson with zero comeback experinence instead having good shape and warm up fights/exhibitions!You mentioned Shavers but you didn't mentioned that it was prime Holmes in that fight and it was in 1978 at Holmes peak not 10 years later, when Tyson faced him in 1988!Holmes was clearly not even close to what he was in 1978!Every fighter declined in 10 years and Holmes did that too!You can not compare Holmes from Shavers fight and Holmes from Tyson fight because one was young and strong and other Holmes was old and outshaped!Holmes had big KO ratio which was built only in his prime!His KO was low in his comeback and showed he was not same!
    Smith-just a contender,good punch,weak chin but was scared and not skillful!
    Bruno-scared shitless,weak chin,weak puncher,built his name fighting cab drivers,old fighters and bums to build KO ratio,never knocked good fighter!His best win was what, 49 years old Bugner?And also against UD against McCall where he showed nothing but rabit punching and hug!
    Ruddock-weak puncher,built his name fighting Tyson,was beaten by Lewis in 3 rounds and by china chinned Morrison in 6 rounds by KO,while Tyson only UD him!Ruddock was china chinned and one handed!He was beaten by David Jaco,LHw bum in 7 rounds also!Ruddock was nothing special except he was knocked by everyone easier!Tyson UD him convince me Tyson isn't class power!
    Frazier only slipped against Mike Bruce and Tyson slipped against Stewart,Smith...
    Frazier was knocked 2 by Bonavena but actualy won and won their second biut!Tyson never went from the floor to win the fight but Frazier did it twice!He lost against Foreman but was never knocked out and gues what,Foreman is 2nd hardest puncher in boxing history while Tyson was knocked by weak puncher called Buster Douglas!
    Frazier could be fast starter too!he knocked Machen in first round who was unlike some bums who Tyson knocked real,good contender!
    Tyson hit nearly as hard as Foreman?Only stupid Tyson fan could say something Dumb!Tyson didn't hit hard as Morrison but Foreman?Holyfield stated that old Foreman punched harder than Tyson!Prime Foreman>Old Foreman>>Tyson!Prime Foreman hit harder than old,and old hit harder than Tyson and you are trying to convince me Tyson hit as hard as Foreman?Tyson was never even close to old Foreman powe but prime Foreman?
    Tyson would never been able to get Frazier with many punches because even faster Ali could not do that and Frazier is atg at slipling punches!He slipped faster punches than Tysons!
    Also Foreman is stronger,tall,rangy,better chinned and harder puncher than Tyson and still could not keep Frazier down!
    Ask Foreman who would ein and he would pick Frazier!
    And those stupid fans things to convince me are not working because Tyson is not iron chinned perhaps his chin is weak,he is not fast as Ali and is not even close to Foreman power!He would lose against Frazier and even Foreman said that!
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2020
  2. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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