Mike Tyson vs Muhammad Ali?

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Tyson vs Ali

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  2. Tyson decision

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  3. Ali KO

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  4. Ali decision

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  5. Draw/Can't Decide

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  1. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    As i stated previously no matter what you say i will not be convinced
     
  2. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson would have a chance in the early rounds, if the fight went on to the late rounds Muhammad Ali would have a psychological advantage over Tyson who would probably be frustrated, Ali on points...
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You've been touched.
     
  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Ali couldn't have hurt Mike? Let's see; Ali hurt and knocked out a prime Foreman, while an older version went the distance and took a peak Holyfield's best shots and laughed while Tyson was KTFO against a shopworn version. Ali has plenty of power to keep Tyson honest, let's not kid ourselves.
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Liston took punches from Cleveland Williams with power that Ali could only dream of. He's not beating Liston.
     
  6. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny, I'm a member of the Leroy Haynes club.
     
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  7. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruddock weighed 183 pounds in his early carrer , he was no natural huge guy, only had added mass just like Morrison
     
  8. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Except we know Morrison drugged up & said he was a natural CW! His son may be naturally somewhat bigger.
    But I am saying we do not know if Ruddock used many, or any, PEDs.
    It is a fallacy to look at guys getting much bigger from when they are very young & assume that it must be either from PEDs, or sometimes they *are* naturally big, in that with adequate training & diet-starting with enough of a surplus of calories-there hormonal levels & bone structure means it is pretty *natural* for them to get big.

    Ali & many others gained a great deal of weight from when they were in their late teens & early 20's.
    It is just Ali never gained, never trained for, as much muscle as a Ruddock or most more modern HWs.
     
  9. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I honestly cannot tell what that means. Touched by what, who, or where? Should I call Human Resources & file a virtual complaint?
     
  10. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Foreman, Liston, Frazier, Norton, Shavers, Lyle, etc couldn’t stop Ali then I don’t think Tyson would. If Douglas and Evander could out box and maneuver Tyson there’s no reason to believe Ali couldn’t as well. I see Ali weathering the early storm and taking Tyson into deep waters and Tyson doesn’t do well in deep waters, but Ali does. Plus peak Ali would be the fastest Tyson ever faced and people forget the Ali deep down was a nasty guy in the ring with an iron will and would be all business.
     
  11. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali by KO. Tyson doesn’t have the stamina and Ali had the chin to survive. Ali was great at making people fight his game. You control the distance w Tyson you can win.
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yes. Call human resources and file a complaint against @Glass City Cobra
     
  13. RightLeftCombo

    RightLeftCombo Active Member Full Member

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    Ali later rounds TKO.

    He's too quick and mobile in his prime, he had a great chin when focused, with fast hands/combos/jab, he'd hold when he had to if Tyson closes in and wouldn't be intimidated.
     
  14. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    He did.Rooney picked few times Ali to beat Tyson and only once note but every other time he did especially after Douglas/Tucker fight.
    Even Cus said to Tyson that he could not beat Ali,Marciano,Louis and Foreman.
    Tyson himself also confirmed tbat he would lose!
    So you know better than Cus and Tyson?
     
  15. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    They were not more accurate but they were bivger which is even better and they are harder puncher.Patterson was fast but what happened when he faced bigger/stronger man?
    Size/reach/power>>>accuracy.
    He couldn't land more than them bevause one thing...he didn't have the reach even to touch Ali.Even Frazier had bigger reach/height than Tyson!Patterson/Quarry had equal reach as Tyson and they couldn't touch Ali even knowing they were faster.Liston was not old he was 32 years old when he faced Ali and didn't have shoulder injury but Ali dislocated his shoulder.Second fight was clear KO and was documented in slow motion as real punch commented by Dempsey and Marciano.Tyson was trained as kid to beat bums and tomato cans and lost against every real fighter.Again Tyson is not swarmer with stamina but counterpuncher with poor stamina who relied on his power whoch is suicidale against Ali which Douglas/Holyfield proved and they are not even close to Ali level.
    Patterson was accorsing to D'Amato and Rooney was more skilled than Tyson but Tyson had better tools with chin,power and strenght while Patterson had better stamina,faster hands,better headmovement and better left hook.Dokes was another fast hands but couldn't touch even washed Ali.
    Patterson had back injury 4 months before that and fully recovered and that was just an excuse because he was exposed like Tyson was.
    He wouldn't make it more compentitive.Ali would knock him sooner or later but if Ali went angry he would not punish Patterson but would finish him in 5 rounds ala London.
    Patterson was not past his prime.He outboxed Bonavena and almost beat Ellis and had two good fights with Quarry and became better boxer.
    Alu had layoff and had twice more fights and was in worst shape of his life.
     
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