Mike Tyson VS Sonny Liston!

Tyson snapped against Holyfield, he didn't quit

He did quit against McBride, after dominating him for the whole fight

 

Berbick was nothing in the ring. Spinks was nothing in the ring. Bruno was nothing in the ring. McNeeley was nothing in the ring. Holmes was not even remotely there that night. Liston would be there and would be something.

 

Tysons own TRAINERS will tell you he had no internal toughness. He was a head case. So go ahead and believe what you want to believe and don't listen to the very men who trained Tyson. Head to had if one is going to quit it's Tyson not
Liston that is doing so.

 

Liston didn't really have the quikest hands, for Tyson a guy often said by fans to just go right through any jab with his defence to not be able to dodge the jab of Liston is kind of strange.

 

Tyson holds advantages over Liston in power? are you kidding me, this is the first i'm hearing of this you sound like another Tyson fanboy that is unable to think of him objectively against another opponent

 

I think Louis knocks him out and Ali wins on points against him. I think prime for prime Douglas would master him as would Holmes.

However I do think he hits harder than liston and would knock him out.

If that is your definition of fan boy then so be it.

 

Liston knocked out Patterson in 1.
Tyson Spinks in 1.

Spinks survived 30 rounds against Larry Holmes, it's safe to say he has a better chin than Patterson.

Tyson was faster and a little bit heavier, Tyson also fully comitted to his punching, he counter punched.
I think it's pretty safe to say Tyson his punches came harder than Liston.


(Hope I don't get accused for a Tyson fanboy... )

 

Liston didn't have to commit his whole body into the punch because he didn't need to Tyson needed the speed to knock guys out, Holmes said he wasn't surprised by Tysons power but by his speed, and it shows if you look at the end of Tyson career when he didn't have his speed anymore he could only knock out tomato cans, an old very slow Liston still had that one punch power because he didn't rely on his speed he relied on his power and boxing skills solely, i find it hard to believe that Tyson could counter punch with Liston. Liston was a good counter puncher and had good head movement not that he would need it much for this fight, the enigma of Tyson makes him seem to be able to beat guys easily but he never fought a guy as good as Liston when mike was in his prime so i think people start to see the guys Tyson fought the ''cans'' as how the fight with great fighters would go, Tyson even said himself he wouldn't be able to beat Holmes after the fight and also said he would be afraid of Liston, if he dosen't believe he could how could he.

 

Tyson's whole style was built around getting past jabs. I have no doubt that he would get past Liston's jab. The question is what happens once he does that. Tyson's hand speed might get it done. Tyson couldn't really bring the fight inside, he needed to be at mid-range to be effective.

Why do people keep playing amateur psychiatrist on here? The REALITY is that you have no idea who is intimidated and what they're thinking. It's all conjecture at best.

What physical advantages does Liston possess except reach? And what is this 15 round ****? Liston never went beyond 12 rounds in his career.

Liston NEVER had a late stoppage in his career. And I don't think he'd get one against Tyson.

 

Liston was just a tougher fighter as well he would of taken mike's punches and hit him back harder

 

The only person thats spoke sense on here so far

Ive read as well Tyson admitted the one man hed be sacred of, was Liston

 

I have a feeling that very few boxers were anything in your mind...not sure why you even watch??? well...if you do?

 

Um yeah, that may have something to do with Tyson stopping much bigger opponents at the world rated level. Do you see Eddie Machen and Bert Whitehurst going the distance with him? I wouldn't bet on them to make it out of the first round. Here a guy holds very clear and distinct advantages in foot/hand speed, defense, countering ability, with more proven power, and you're astonished people would pick him to win?

You calling luf a "Tyson fanboy" is a ****ing disgrace. Get a clue, you.

 

I am not agreeing or disagreeing, for I personally don't care who has more power....they both have enough to dispose of the other...I do lean towards, Liston stoping Tyson, but we all have differing opinions....


Using Liston vs Eddie Machen is not a whole lot different than using Tillis or others against Tyson.I might not bet on Tillis getting out of the first round against Liston...If looked at w/ a fair eye neither really has anything to do with how this might go.

 

Azzer85, I spoke sense even though it was in writing.