You have to love how honest and forward Philly is. Very refreshing from the normal condescending one liners.
And yeah, my go-to pick in Frazier-Tyson is that Tyson domes out early, bulls Frazier around and tries to take out Joe early. He gets a KD or two, but doesn't have the power to put him away, he's no foreman, and Foreman didn't really have the power to put Frazier away, just down enough for the referee to step in. Frazier crowds Tyson, working the body and slowly sapping an increasingly tired Tyson's gas tank, taking over at about six. Over 15, Frazier whittles Tyson down and chops him to a stoppage; circa fourteen. Over twelve, a Tyson decision is certainly plausible, and with a more modern, and squeamish referee, an early stoppage is too. But with the gritty fifteen rounds, an old school referee, and a 70s style ruleset. Give me Frazier. Tyson may have been KOing guys non-stop, but early KOs were pretty rare for him at the very top level, and worse men than Frazier survived the early rounds, and some with similar styles. I also think the mental image of Frazier picking himself up and dusting off Tyson's best shots would scare the **** outta Mike.
I stand corrected. He fought more big punchers than I remember so good callout. However, he didn't face many top/elite level fighter with power such as Bowe, Morrison, Tua, Klit bros...
The only 2 certain losses for Tyson are Foreman and Liston, they are too much for him. Frazier starts too slow,Tua has a great chin so that is a possible upset but I doubt it. Louis? I'd favor iron Mike 60-40. Wlad and Vitali ain't beating a focused Tyson. Lyle would be an interesting fight as Mike wouldn't intimidate Ron Lyle. The rest get beaten up.
Wlad is a top 6/7 puncher of all time for me, no qualms there. Bowe, really, why? Outside of Holyfield, the guy has no really impressive stoppages, lacks the explosive snap to truly be classed as a great puncher, and his shots were often wide and inaccurate. Look at Morrison vs Williams (a known glassy guy), he just couldn't get him out of there after rounds upon rounds of hitting him with his best. Tua, okay, fair enough, I can see this one. Vitali was just very far from an elite puncher, I shouldn't need to say this.
Bowe, Liston, Louis, Lewis and Foreman would be the most difficult tasks. And out of the 3 I'm picking Bowe to do the best until Mike gets him out in a firefight for the ages.
Don't knock the arrogance, Phil. Just be glad he didn't add his own name to the list. He hit a heavy bag once at boxercise after work, don't you know?
He more than has the power to take him away and he's far more accurate than Foreman. Plus, he doesn't have to take him away with 1 punch, he'll use a combo. What match did you watch ?!? Your statement contradicts itself. If the ref hadn't stepped in, Foreman would have put por ol' Frazier to sleep. Frazier never lasts more than 3-4 rounds. Tyson KOs him just like he did his son. The proper word is not plausible, but most likely/guaranteed. If the ref let's it continue, Frazier gets permanent brain damage. It wouldn't affect him at all. He'd mop up the floor with Frazier just like he did with his son. 2-3 rounds tops, most likely round 1 KO.
And then Frazier gets up. Again, and again, and again..... What did I watch? I watched a man take on a guy who was no less than the third hardest puncher ever, and get up from his best five times. I'm not trying to say that Frazier would have ever won, just that his chin is insane. Putting him away properly just isn't gonna happen. So you think that a pressure fighter like Ferguson, who wasn't half as tough as Frazier, can go six, but Frazier can't? Come off it with your Tyson hyperbole. The guy wasn't a God. You think a decision is most likely? Wtf happened to the above? He still beats Tyson late. Imagine comparing Marvis to Joe
In your dreams maybe. He doesn't get up, and even if he does, the refs stops it. Yes it is gonna happen. Foreman never put him away cause the ref saved him. Foreman knocked him down with 1 punch, 2 at most. If the ref would have allowed him to land a combo, we can all envision the outcome....RIP Frazier. No, he wasn't a god, but Ferguson stayed tucked in his shell for the most part hopping for a miracle. Frazier will slug it out and that will be the end of him. No, I see a Tyson KO as most likely. All I'm saying is if it somehow goes the distance, Tyson will easily win on points. Tyson wins at least 4 of the first 6 rounds. My money's on all 5 or even all 6, but for the sake of the argument let's say he only wins 4. You can also agree with that. All he needs to do in order to win is to share the 6 remaining rounds, which isn't very hard for him. His match with Ribalta showcases the fact that a fully focused and properly prepared Tyson can dominate and win on points. No he doesn't. This is just a stupid cliche that people like to perpetuate. I was just comparing the outcome.