Prime Tyson was actually the unified and undisputed HW champion of the wordl. When VITLAY achieves this then come back to me and compare notes, until then shut your silly little trap....VITLAY isn't fit to carry Tysons jock. WALDO even less so.
tyson was good in his prime but he never had a great resume(guys like berbick in his 30s,smith in his 30s, a lhw spinks in his 30s or a shot holmes), but anyway the career is not matter, i am saying that vitali would have great chance to beat a prime tyson and it is a fact. but maybe you prefer to continue saying that nonsense "prime tyson would beat anyone"
I think you're selling Tyson short here. His resume doesn't have many signature wins against an Ali, Frazier, Bowe or Liston but it does have alot depth and compared to many Heavyweight Champions he was remarkably consistent. Tyson has many ranked contenders in his resume. Remember not many Heavyweight Champions have 9 consecutive title defenses and most champions after losing the title seldom have any significant victories that compare to Tyson. Compare Tyson with Frazier after he lost the title? With Liston? With Dempsey?
i agree 100% about liston and dempsey, but frazier during his career did beat ali, bonavena,quarry,chuvalo,jimmy ellis,mathis,bob foster( better than spinks)... frazier had 100%better resume than tyson
Frazier has the Ali win which is hard to top. No argument there. But I think Spinks was better at Heavyweight than Foster was. Maybe at Light Heavyweight you can argue that Foster was better but what Spinks did once he moved up proved that he was more effective at a higher weight. Its funny cause I've always like Foster, he was a KO king those are the kind of fighters that I like most but I always felt that his style wasn't suited for moving up because his scary power wasn't going to move up with him. Spinks was better at Heavyweight because he didn't rely on the same things as Foster did. Tyson's resume: Tucker Thomas Biggs Smith Berbick Spinks Holmes Ruddock 2x Golota* Botha C. Williams Bruno 2x Seldon Savarese Stewart Frazier's Resume: Ali Quarry 2x Chuvalo Bonevena 2x Ellis 2x Bugner Foster Stander Daniels Mathis Looking at both resume's its clear Frazier's win over Ali is better than anything Tyson did but it's also clear that Tyson carries depth and has better longevity than Frazier did.
Good post. Now can you post VITLAYS resume and compare it to Tysons for all of us? I'm just interested in seeing how stupid suggesting VITLAY is better than Tyson really is when you see their resumes side by side :yep
Vitaly. Herbie Hide Kirk Johnson Cris Arreola Sam Peter Larry Donald Shannon Briggs Juan Carlos Gomez Kevin Johnson Corrie Sanders These are the best names on Vitaly's resume. Feel free to add any name that you think is appropriate.
I helped by annotating some details in. Funny thing is, the only "Grade B" name there is Shannon Briggs, but he was shot, brutally ruined by Lennox in '98, deteriorating & ballooning up in weight ever since.
as faded as tyson was in 2000 i think he still would have beaten wlad the heavier slower 2001 onwards version loses .