Mike Tysons chances against Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko later in his career ?

I think Tyson anytime post the Holyfield losses gets beat by either Klit. Wladimir does not get complacent against a man named Mike Tyson the way that he did against one named Corrie Sanders. And both men ( Wlad and Vitali ), had the size, strength and boxing ability to overcome a declining Tyson.

 

i think he has a good chance of getting beat almost anytime in his career. their composite skills are absolutely poison to him. tall, long jabbers who are stronger than him- if they can last a few rounds- will wear him down. obviously, wlad can be stung more readily than vit but also under steward has developed the strategy to deal with that weakness. i'm not saying i would pick either emphatically against a prime tyson but they would certainly have a decent chance, far better than the no-hopers he fought in the 80's.

 

tyson after his second layoff (holy 2) was shot. the botha ko was just a momentary deviation.

wlad: 1997 tyson
vitali: 1991 tyson

vitali was a tough fighter with heart and a heavy hand. tyson wins by a hard fought, competitive decision after 12 rounds. 1991 tyson proved he could do this whereas the 1996 tyson did not. just a few terrific punches will not be enough to beat vitali. it'll be a good day's work with tyson taking some clobbering too but coming out victorious.

wlad would be much easier because yes, half a dozen bombs from a 1996 tyson who still had his explosive speed would suffice.

 

I think that he loses to both by this time, because he lost the skills needed to beat men of their size. He lost the head movement, jabbing ability, and the ability to consistently get off first. This was evident when he fought brian neilson( who he would've ko'd in the 1st or 2nd round in his prime), and against frans botha, a journeyman fighter who was actually giving tyson trouble until he got caught.

I couldn't see a post-prime tyson beating the two big guys who are also skilled, quality fighters. Out of the two of them wladimir would be the one he would have the best chance against because of his suspect chin, but it would have to be a lucky punch because tyson no longer had what it took to reach him consistently.

 

I agree with the ~1991 for Vitali, ~1997 for Wladimir approximation.

~Holyfield-era Tyson vs. peak Wladimir would be near even-money, IMO.

I do believe that a prime Tyson would've knocked Wladimir out within 3 and either UD'd Vitali or TKO'd him (standing or corner retirement) late.

 

After prison both of the Klits are hard work for Tyson, I don't agree that Vit is the better fighter than Wlad, under Steward Wlad has developed.

 

Well I think the Tyson that fought Lennox would still have had a chance with Wlad as he definitely had the power to stop him.

Vitali? Hmmm....prime Tyson would find a way inside and would pummell Vitali to either a decision or stoppage (cuts?) But THAT version of Tyson would've been stopped, his heart just wasn't in it anymore.

Anyways Newbridge, you gonna' be fighting Ryan Rhodes anytime soon? Or can you not talk about it?

 

Very good post.

 

Prior Holfield 2, I'd back Tyson to beat both Vitali & Wladamir.

Most definately, the Tyson who fought Bruno in March 1996 would have beaten both, & by TKO imo!

Ok, Tyson was not the fighter then that he was in the late 1980's, but he was still powerful, strong, fast & nimble. He did move his head, be it only a little compared to what was the case back in his heyday!

 

Depends on what version of Wlad. The pre-Steward offensive machine is more likely to get stopped by Tyson, but if he wins, he'll destroy him worse than anyone ever did, causing Widdow_Maker to have multiple orgasms. :yep

The post Steward Wlad will tie Mike up during most of his offensive attempts (much like Holyfield and Lewis did) and would fair better, probably in a fight that resembles Lewis-Tyson, or a points win.



I'd say post-2000, Vitali always beats Tyson and Wlad has a very good chance. In '96, Vitali might have a slight advantage, while Wlad probably gets knocked out, though the Steward version has a decent shot.

 

Post Holyfield Tyson still beat up Golota and made him quit. I'd make him the definite favorite over Wladimir but I agree in that Vitali beats him.

 

A stiff breeze makes Golota quit.

 

He'd lose to both anytime around 1999 to his retirement. Too one-dimensional and not focussed enough.
The version that fought Holyfield would be very competitive and beat at least one of them though.